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Re: Hetzner Cloud

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Post by dx034 » Tue, Jan 23, 2018, 11:33 AM UTC

babuskov wrote: post #68

pulse7 wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they open a DC in the US, then - by the US laws - their US company will have to provide the data even from German DCs when requested by the US government. So it is maybe better not to enter the US...

They could form a separate company to handle US operations only.

OVH tries to do that but I doubt that's waterproof. Probably easier to have an agreement with a US provider.

Having everything in the EU makes it much easier for them and is a selling point for many customers.

Re: Hetzner Cloud

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Post by virtualwhys » Tue, Jan 23, 2018, 11:34 AM UTC

Uh, what? 14U colo rack space for 100 Euros per month[1], that's insane -- I must be missing something.

[1] https://www.hetzner.com/colocation/13-rack

Re: Hetzner Cloud

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Post by dx034 » Tue, Jan 23, 2018, 11:34 AM UTC

tobltobs wrote: post #53

Good to see Hetzner catching up to OVH. Some crude comparison of their offers: Hetzner CX11 € 2,96 1 vCPU 2 GB RAM 20 GB NVMe SSD 20 TB Traffic CX21 € 5,83 2 vCPU 4 GB RAM 40 GB NVMe SSD 20 TB Traffic CX31 € 10,59 2 vCPU 8 GB RAM 80 GB NVMe SSD 20 TB Traffic CX41 € 18,92 4 vCPU 16 GB RAM 160 GB NVMe SSD 20 TB Traffic CX51 € 35,58 8 vCPU 32 GB RAM 240 GB NVMe SSD 20 TB Traffic --------------------- OVH VPS SSD 1 1 vCo…

You're comparing OVH's SSD where they don't guarantee speed and have 100mbit connections. Speed on those can be incredibly slow. For a fair comparison you'd have to use their public cloud instances which are 2-3x the price of Hetzner.

Re: Hetzner Cloud

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Post by babuskov » Tue, Jan 23, 2018, 11:36 AM UTC

insomniacity wrote: post #9

Hetzner still haven't said anything to me about Spectre/Meltdown, or rebooted my VPS, so I'm not sure I trust them any more!

That's strange. I remember getting an e-mail from them about it some time ago. Perhaps they had issues e-mailing you. Check your spam folder.

Re: Hetzner Cloud

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Post by dx034 » Tue, Jan 23, 2018, 11:36 AM UTC

bufferoverflow wrote: post #22

Great prices. What's strange is that only RAM and disk space increase linearly with the price, not the CPU, nor the traffic. That creates an incentive to buy small instances and getting a lot more for your buck.

Probably because that's how servers can be set up most efficiently? It's probably much cheaper to run servers with a lot of ram and storage instead of having cpu-heavy machines (infrastructure, cooling, electricity).

Re: Hetzner Cloud

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Post by dx034 » Tue, Jan 23, 2018, 11:37 AM UTC

virtualwhys wrote: post #72

Uh, what? 14U colo rack space for 100 Euros per month[1], that's insane -- I must be missing something. [1] https://www.hetzner.com/colocation/13-rack

Yes, you pay German retail electricity prices, i.e. 24c/kwh. But they've always been that cheap.

Re: Hetzner Cloud

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Post by phihag_ » Tue, Jan 23, 2018, 11:40 AM UTC

myf01d wrote: post #62

I would really like to try Hetzner since it's a respectable company and offers much lower prices than DO or Linode, however, they need an ID verification. Since I am egyptian and have no passport, I cannot register. I hope they find a more resilient way for registration.

Why don't you get a passport, government ID, or driver's license? I'm honestly interested, if that's not too personal to ask.

Re: Hetzner Cloud

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Post by kawsper » Tue, Jan 23, 2018, 11:41 AM UTC

Does anyone know if they offer per-customer, or per-project local networking?

It is something I can get from Packet.net, but not from Linode or DI (Although Linode promised that it was in their pipeline, I have yet to see it), OVH does offer this but I only experienced pain with their interface and service.

Re: Hetzner Cloud

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Post by Tehnix » Tue, Jan 23, 2018, 11:42 AM UTC

myf01d wrote: post #62

I would really like to try Hetzner since it's a respectable company and offers much lower prices than DO or Linode, however, they need an ID verification. Since I am egyptian and have no passport, I cannot register. I hope they find a more resilient way for registration.

That got me curious, are you saying you don't have a passport because you're Egyptian, or was that just an additional piece of information separate from the passport? (Don't know if I'm missing some international news/info here.)

Also, maybe it would be worth contacting their support about your situation, maybe some other form of identification can be used.

Re: Hetzner Cloud

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Post by dx034 » Tue, Jan 23, 2018, 11:43 AM UTC

Since Hetzner appears to be reading here: I have a question that support couldn't answer last time. How are your DCs connected with each other and with external peering points? I notice that some traceroutes to FSN servers go via NBG. If one data centre region goes down (as OVH just experienced), will all peering still work on the other or would that kill some peering points?

Having some kind of network topology (like OVH's weathermap) would help with that, esp where to position servers that rely on certain peering points.