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Once seniors are too old to drive, our transportation system fails them

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Re: Once seniors are too old to drive, our transportation system fails them

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post #175

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> Here, children are driven to school by their parents. When school ends, the parents are there waiting in their cars. Do parents get out of their work in the middle of the afternoon to drive their kids from school to home? Do they go back to work for the last couple hours after that? Or do kids have 8-hour schooldays?

It's called housewives, a concept abandoned by most of the modern world.

And for good reasons.

Re: Once seniors are too old to drive, our transportation system fails them

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post #130

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Out of curiosity, why give up your license? It's a great ID. You don't have to use it. I know plenty of people with licenses to carry concealed, but don't. To you point about car dependence, not using one is humiliating, at least for me. I live about .25 miles from my office. I walk daily to and from (twice). I feel, and have seen, people look at me like I'm poor. It is a foreign concept to many that walking or bikin…

I, and several of my friends when I used to live in Phoenix, were big walkers. Its evening? go for a walk around the neighborhood. Walk to work, even though it was like 1.5 miles...just...walk. Each of us were stopped at least once by police for being suspicious...near as I can tell (we were all >middle class white people) all that was suspicious was us walking on sidewalks. Outside of the biggest cities America is a…

This is very telling

even though it was like 1.5 miles...

It should be the other way round "People drive to stuff, even though it's only 1.5 miles".

Re: Once seniors are too old to drive, our transportation system fails them

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post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Here, children are driven to school by their parents. When school ends, the parents are there waiting in their cars. Do parents get out of their work in the middle of the afternoon to drive their kids from school to home? Do they go back to work for the last couple hours after that? Or do kids have 8-hour schooldays?

I'm sure it varies by family. Some people have fully flexible time. Some people have a part-time job or two, so they simply don't agree to work shifts during the times they need to drive the kids around. Some people don't work, often because a single income is supporting a two-parent household.

Or they don't work, because the parent is expected to wait for the child in car, although the child is big enough to transport itself had there been reasonable public transport.

Re: Once seniors are too old to drive, our transportation system fails them

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I always get an inkling that buses (like Bolt/Mega/PeterPan) + the existing highway + roads are superior and more scalable than any other type of transportation, dollar for dollar. Why do people push for rail? Self-driving cars obviously can enhance this (the bus idea), but I suspect they will create even more traffic if we insist on having 5 passenger cars be 75% empty. Buses are great because demand can be realloca…

One reason is permanence. A bus route can change easily, a dedicated bus lane can become an everyone lane with a coat of paint. A rail line is much harder to change, for me this was a big factor in deciding where to buy an apartment. > Rail doesn't have this flexibility. Because trying to maximize the utilized capacity creates worse outcomes. If there is only service every 30 minutes at a slow time of day then less p…

Also see the Beeching cuts [0] in the UK, where closing rural and low-use railway lines led to decreased use of the high-use more profitable lines, making them less (or not) profitable!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beeching_cuts

Re: Once seniors are too old to drive, our transportation system fails them

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Err, it's just an idea. y'know, an inkling, a suspicion, impression, etc.

Oh, but you think that's enough to found policy recommendations on? If it's just an inkling with no data to back it up, maybe keep it to yourself?

I have an inkling that you need a time out.

Re: Once seniors are too old to drive, our transportation system fails them

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It isn't proper to ignore America's failure to deal with crime when you compare methods of transportation. Different modes of transportation provide different levels of protection from crime. This matters. You should be wary about trusting official crime statistics, particularly in Germany. There is an ongoing effort to censor this data. You face heavily filtered search engines, content removed from social media, and…

Well done. You've just engaged in an ideological rant about muslim rapists in a thread about people being too old to drive. You linked to the Gatestone institute, twice. Started by a known anti-muslim zionist and the reporting has been repeatedly accused of deliberate inaccuracies. You also linked to WND twice. A publication known for perpetuating shaky conspiracy theories and white supremacism. You chose two extreme…

You're reading a lot more into that than I intended. He brought up crime in Germany. The links do discuss muslim rapists, but I'm not ranting about it. The point is that his assertion of low crime is unreliable in an environment where information is suppressed.

Re: Once seniors are too old to drive, our transportation system fails them

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Not only seniors. Kids, low income, people with health problems, they all are strangers in their own city with the current system. All this just so that young able people can drive. Of course all this can fire back because if you are the only one that drives and the rest in your family don't, then you are the driver.

Re: Once seniors are too old to drive, our transportation system fails them

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On public transit, wouldn't you be unusually vulnerable to crime? Why would you want a service that isn't safe for you?

What an American comment to make. Public transit works in many cities perfectly well and you can use it without fearing for your life, or your wallet. Children in elementary school take public transit unattended.

Yeah, that sounds really weird to me, in france I went to school alone starting at 7 years old (although it was on foot and really close by), then using public transportation at 10, and I was never in danger.

Re: Once seniors are too old to drive, our transportation system fails them

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post #130

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I, and several of my friends when I used to live in Phoenix, were big walkers. Its evening? go for a walk around the neighborhood. Walk to work, even though it was like 1.5 miles...just...walk. Each of us were stopped at least once by police for being suspicious...near as I can tell (we were all >middle class white people) all that was suspicious was us walking on sidewalks. Outside of the biggest cities America is a…

Doesn't help that drivers act incredibly entitled to the road and view pedestrians and bicycles as obstacles.

Otoh, drivets are also the ones taking the traffic regulations most seriously. Pedestrians are inclined to jaywalk, and that’s pretty much it, but don’t get me started on bicycles…

Re: Once seniors are too old to drive, our transportation system fails them

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post #172

Cars are exploitation. Driving isn't freedom it's the most dangerous and isolating way to move people that exists. The automobile companies have trapped us into debt and traffic laden commutes that waste hours of our short lives on this planet and cause roughly 30% of climate change. Do something. Get rid of your car and push for better mass transportation and development near train stations and major urban areas. Ca…

That's extreme. I have a car in NYC. The subway system here is amazing, while also being an embarrassment. But, the car provides the freedom to visit friends and family for a day or weekend. The cost is $200 per month parking and $150 per month insurance, plus the cost of the car, which is relatively low as we drive less than 500 miles per month. We can visit family in 45 minutes or 2 hours (depending on destination)…

When I lived in Sydney I found that my car was sitting idle for the majority of the time. I did the sums and even with free parking at my apartment, it would have been cheaper for me to just rent a car for the days that I needed it (like a weekend trip, a shopping trip to the suburbs/ikea, etc) than to own it outright. I had coworkers that did that any it was fine.

If you look at it financially, you owning a car is the same as owning an option to rent a car at any time. The less you drive it the more the ability to have it available costs you.

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