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I was thinking, is it possible to attach a weird control gizmo to your car and call it autopilot, and blame the device when it crashed? It is not allowed in Japan (where I live) because of the draconian vehicle inspection program, but I guess in some US states it is more liberal.
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> Pilots are never expected to get their eyes off the controls. Pilots do so all the time, because airplanes aren't flying in a congested 2D space. Airspace is mostly empty, with very large distances between planes and features, allowing for plenty of early warning. And an airplane's "autopilot" has nothing to do with Tesla's Autopilot. Their purpose and working mechanisms are completely different. The airplane analo…
The aircraft autopilot is pretty much the same thing. It steers on the designated lane, maintaining attitude, and relies on the pilot to be aware of conditions. It operates the controls but relies on the human operator for supervision. Pilots talk about “flying in the magenta” and exactly the same thing applies to Tesla Autopilot. Believing that autopilot means something different is the bullshit attitude that has to…
A Tesla slammed into the back of a stopped firetruck at 65mph and the driver walked away un-injured. Why am I not already driving a Tesla?
You know I take issue with Tesla on these incidents. They're trying to have it both ways. They market it as 'autopilot' to appeal to the dream of complete self-driving but if an accident actually happens it can never be the fault of autopilot. After all it's required for the driver to be paying attention so if they didn't override autopilot it's obvious they weren't paying attention. Really I'd like to see the govern…
You know I take issue with Tesla on these incidents. They're trying to have it both ways. They market it as 'autopilot' to appeal to the dream of complete self-driving but if an accident actually happens it can never be the fault of autopilot. After all it's required for the driver to be paying attention so if they didn't override autopilot it's obvious they weren't paying attention. Really I'd like to see the govern…
Let me put another option out there for you: Tesla wants autopilot Emergency services want autonomy in being able to shut the freeway down. How about PUT THE FUCKING AUTOPILOT SYSTEM IN THE EMERGENCY vehicles -- such that THEY can report to ANY auto driving car "SLOW DOWN we are doing emergency services [HERE]" And then you get both -- The emergency services vehicles should be freaking beacons to any self/auto drivin…
The automation in Tesla's vehicles is, and should be, designed around modern conditions, not a utopia. Otherwise disable all those features until that utopia arrives.
Or would we say collisions with pedestrians are okay until such pedestrians all have autonomous human beacons (made by Tesla, of course)?
As a current Tesla owner and frequent autopilot user I can attest to this being a scenario where autopilot has not worked for me - traveling at high speed and approaching a stopped vehicle from a distance. I now always take it off autopilot when this occurs because it will not brake in time.
From a technical perspective—why would Tesla not have taken more care to address this scenario? It seems like low hanging fruit in comparison to other challenges that autopilot has to be able to handle.
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We'll know soon enough based on stored vehicle telemetry. Experience suggests that the right to privacy is the first thing to go in the event of a newsworthy crash in a Tesla.
> Experience suggests that the right to privacy is the first thing to go in the event of a newsworthy crash in a Tesla Isn't that usually because the owner lied about using Autopilot?
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NHTSA says it does (autopilot reduced crash rates by 40%). http://bgr.com/2017/01/19/tesla-autopilot-crash-safety-stati...
This is a common misinterpretation. The data only shows that TACC + Autosteer reduced crashes by 40% vs TACC alone. There is no comparison to complete driver control.
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Agreed. I am a big fan of Tesla and I used to make excuses for them on this but I think it’s b.s. they didn’t rename it after the incident where the guy died. Cool marketing names do not outweigh being totally honest and up front. If I made rat poison that looked like candy and named it “Yummy Candy Rat Poison” and some kid died coz they ate it, I’d deserve some blame regardless of parents keeping poison away from ki…
It isn't called full self driving, it is called auto-pilot. In aviation, auto-pilot is a system used to control the trajectory of an aircraft without constant 'hands-on' control by a human operator being required. Autopilots do not replace human operators but assist them in controlling aircraft, allowing them to focus on broader aspects of operations.
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NHTSA says it does (autopilot reduced crash rates by 40%). http://bgr.com/2017/01/19/tesla-autopilot-crash-safety-stati...
This is a common misinterpretation. The data only shows that TACC + Autosteer reduced crashes by 40% vs TACC alone. There is no comparison to complete driver control.
Time will tell as they ramp production.