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Re: Netflix plans to spend $8B to make its library 50 percent original by 2018

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Post by kenhwang »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #54
kenhwang wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HBO is owned by WB, DC is leveraging WB to build their streaming service. Disney and WB both have a stake in Hulu. So the realistic remaining players after the dust settles would be Disney+Hulu, CBS, Netflix, and Amazon. And of those 4, CBS lacks the capital or content to compete with the other 3 and given their relatively friendly relationship with WB, I can see them integrating into the Disney/Hulu heavyweight.

What you 'see' lacks a lot of understanding. - CBS remains the dominant power in network TV, shows like NCIS, Big Bang Theory, etc. - CBS has always been the standout in refusing to offer their shows over Hulu, feeling they have enough independent value of their own. All Access has it's weaknesses, but it's also one of the cheapest offerings ($5.99 to watch with commercials), and CBS easily has the content to work wi…

Dominant meaning the smallest of the big 4 (Disney, Comcast, Fox, CBS) along with being the only one with a dropping stock price YoY in a bull market? (+3.2%, +16.6%, +25.1%, -8.25%)

Discovery is my favorite show at the moment, but one show can't carry a company.

Re: Netflix plans to spend $8B to make its library 50 percent original by 2018

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Post by natoliniak »

dagw wrote: post #34
natoliniak wrote: post #25

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I sense a resurrection of torrenting and ironically enough, DVD rentals. BTW, Netflix still has a very rich library of streaming content, but in other world regions. A good global VPN service and some DNS tweaks will unlock a ton of streaming content.

A good global VPN service and some DNS tweaks will unlock a ton of streaming content. Can you recommend something the works? I used to have a couple of different ones, but Netflix got really good a blocking VPNs a while back so I kind of gave up.

You are right, it is a bit of cat and mouse game, but I have been quite successful at using a Nordvpn's French and Brazilian pops (for at least the past 6 months). You have to also modify your client DNS settings to either use European/S. American DNS servers (plenty of free ones) so that Netflix's apis will resolve to the proper region, otherwise you will get only NA catalog, even if you are on VPN. good luck!

Re: Netflix plans to spend $8B to make its library 50 percent original by 2018

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Post by glomph »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #54
kenhwang wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HBO is owned by WB, DC is leveraging WB to build their streaming service. Disney and WB both have a stake in Hulu. So the realistic remaining players after the dust settles would be Disney+Hulu, CBS, Netflix, and Amazon. And of those 4, CBS lacks the capital or content to compete with the other 3 and given their relatively friendly relationship with WB, I can see them integrating into the Disney/Hulu heavyweight.

What you 'see' lacks a lot of understanding. - CBS remains the dominant power in network TV, shows like NCIS, Big Bang Theory, etc. - CBS has always been the standout in refusing to offer their shows over Hulu, feeling they have enough independent value of their own. All Access has it's weaknesses, but it's also one of the cheapest offerings ($5.99 to watch with commercials), and CBS easily has the content to work wi…

Unless more people in total subscribe at the lower price points. Not everyone had cable.

Re: Netflix plans to spend $8B to make its library 50 percent original by 2018

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Post by s_ngularity »

paulcole wrote: post #53
AFNobody wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The hilarious thing is this is going to drive people back to engaging in piracy on various levels (i.e. ripping streaming shows for personal use and/or organized piracy groups). The main reason for piracy's decline is $20/month for a couple streaming services is less hassle for most people in the 1st world. They are restoring the incentives that led to its rise. Its quite hilarious. I mean if eztv hadn't been taken o…

> The hilarious thing is this is going to drive people back to engaging in piracy on various levels People aren't "driven to piracy". Piracy's a conscious decision to take what they want without paying for it.

It's a conscious decision, but that decision may be greatly influenced by the content being prohibitively expensive for them to otherwise obtain.

Re: Netflix plans to spend $8B to make its library 50 percent original by 2018

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Post by [deleted] »

cameronhowe wrote: post #55
Paul-ish wrote: post #24

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> It is just becoming the internet equivalent of an unlimited on-demand cable channel. With no commercials. All in all, That's still an improvement over traditional cable.

Can people stop saying this. There are plenty of ads in netflix/amazon/whatever shows. They just make them unskippable by integrating them into their shows. And I know other shows and movies do it as well, that is no reason to pretend you're not getting brainwashed to crave fast food and soda when watching these shows instead.

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Re: Netflix plans to spend $8B to make its library 50 percent original by 2018

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

kenhwang wrote: post #61
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What you 'see' lacks a lot of understanding. - CBS remains the dominant power in network TV, shows like NCIS, Big Bang Theory, etc. - CBS has always been the standout in refusing to offer their shows over Hulu, feeling they have enough independent value of their own. All Access has it's weaknesses, but it's also one of the cheapest offerings ($5.99 to watch with commercials), and CBS easily has the content to work wi…

Dominant meaning the smallest of the big 4 (Disney, Comcast, Fox, CBS) along with being the only one with a dropping stock price YoY in a bull market? (+3.2%, +16.6%, +25.1%, -8.25%) Discovery is my favorite show at the moment, but one show can't carry a company.

I will restate what I wrote above: CBS is the number one network channel. There are a big three: CBS, NBC, and ABC.

Disney owns the third biggest channel, Comcast owns the second biggest channel. Fox isn't even on the playing field, and is cashing in their entertainment arm.

Re: Netflix plans to spend $8B to make its library 50 percent original by 2018

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Post by rhino369 »

glomph wrote: post #63
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What you 'see' lacks a lot of understanding. - CBS remains the dominant power in network TV, shows like NCIS, Big Bang Theory, etc. - CBS has always been the standout in refusing to offer their shows over Hulu, feeling they have enough independent value of their own. All Access has it's weaknesses, but it's also one of the cheapest offerings ($5.99 to watch with commercials), and CBS easily has the content to work wi…

Unless more people in total subscribe at the lower price points. Not everyone had cable.

Which is probably more than cancled out by lack of advertising revenue. Cable networks get 50% of their revenue from ads.

Re: Netflix plans to spend $8B to make its library 50 percent original by 2018

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Post by AFNobody »

paulcole wrote: post #53
AFNobody wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The hilarious thing is this is going to drive people back to engaging in piracy on various levels (i.e. ripping streaming shows for personal use and/or organized piracy groups). The main reason for piracy's decline is $20/month for a couple streaming services is less hassle for most people in the 1st world. They are restoring the incentives that led to its rise. Its quite hilarious. I mean if eztv hadn't been taken o…

> The hilarious thing is this is going to drive people back to engaging in piracy on various levels People aren't "driven to piracy". Piracy's a conscious decision to take what they want without paying for it.

> People aren't "driven to piracy". Piracy's a conscious decision to take what they want without paying for it.

Do you believe in psychological studies? Dark UI patterns?

Denying these things doesn't make it less true. People take the lowest effort route to the end goal.

Re: Netflix plans to spend $8B to make its library 50 percent original by 2018

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Post by mixmastamyk »

s_ngularity wrote: post #64
paulcole wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The hilarious thing is this is going to drive people back to engaging in piracy on various levels People aren't "driven to piracy". Piracy's a conscious decision to take what they want without paying for it.

It's a conscious decision, but that decision may be greatly influenced by the content being prohibitively expensive for them to otherwise obtain.

Or often not available at any price.
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