> which created a window "one pixel high, one pixel wide" to Bylock.net
WTF, that is like condemning everybody of murder who owns a knife.
Thousands of Turks accused of using Bylock app despite never having used it
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Re: Thousands of Turks accused of using Bylock app despite never having used it
#52FTFY: a shitty government is putting people in jail. Even if we ignore the horrible government and bullshit reasons why they're considering installing an encrypted chat app a "crime", they should at least use proper evidence for the convictions, like a dump of the phone's memory with the chat app installed on it, and not a simple DNS lookup/HTTP request to the chat app's domain.
I thought that the American government had the worst ratio of free citizens/incarcerated citizens ...
America has a high ratio.
To call it 'worst' is a value judgment and not an objective statement, any more than saying the abortion or divorce rate is better or worse.
Re: Thousands of Turks accused of using Bylock app despite never having used it
#53FTFY: a shitty government is putting people in jail. Even if we ignore the horrible government and bullshit reasons why they're considering installing an encrypted chat app a "crime", they should at least use proper evidence for the convictions, like a dump of the phone's memory with the chat app installed on it, and not a simple DNS lookup/HTTP request to the chat app's domain.
The article's tacit acknowledgment of the legitimacy of arresting people for having had the app installed at all is pretty off-colour as well.
one problem at a time.
Re: Thousands of Turks accused of using Bylock app despite never having used it
#54I find it very frustrating to read about such oppressive regimes. It fills me with anger, I cannot help myself, I just hate injustice.
Me too. I find it inexplicable that while our species has progressed so much after 6000 years of civilization, one thing that doesn't seem to have changed is the desire of large sections of people to be led by oppressive maniacs. It's almost like many of us just love handing away our freedoms. Have sociologists studied this phenomenon?
low quality education.
Re: Thousands of Turks accused of using Bylock app despite never having used it
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
The article's tacit acknowledgment of the legitimacy of arresting people for having had the app installed at all is pretty off-colour as well.
one problem at a time.
Yes, precisely. And the first problem can be eliminating tacit acknowledgement of the legitimacy of oppressive governments.
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Installing chat software shouldn’t be a crime. I don't think you understand how repressive regimes work. And I bet that on HN you'll find a lot of support for jailing people who install a let's say Nazi chat app on their phone.
> I bet that on HN you'll find a lot of support for jailing people who install a let's say Nazi chat app on their phone. This is pure flame-bait and will not result in any positive contributions to this conversation.
The magnitude of the down votes on his comment lend some weight to his criticism.
Re: Thousands of Turks accused of using Bylock app despite never having used it
#57FTFY: a shitty government is putting people in jail. Even if we ignore the horrible government and bullshit reasons why they're considering installing an encrypted chat app a "crime", they should at least use proper evidence for the convictions, like a dump of the phone's memory with the chat app installed on it, and not a simple DNS lookup/HTTP request to the chat app's domain.
The article's tacit acknowledgment of the legitimacy of arresting people for having had the app installed at all is pretty off-colour as well.
If you hadn't pointed it out I wouldn't even have noticed. The CBC is the last place you expect to find Turkish propaganda.
Re: Thousands of Turks accused of using Bylock app despite never having used it
#58FTFY: a shitty government is putting people in jail. Even if we ignore the horrible government and bullshit reasons why they're considering installing an encrypted chat app a "crime", they should at least use proper evidence for the convictions, like a dump of the phone's memory with the chat app installed on it, and not a simple DNS lookup/HTTP request to the chat app's domain.
Exactly this. People are apparently being jailed for having accessed or simply pinged a forbidden IP/server -- which seemingly could be caused by receiving an email with a hidden img tag, or visiting a website with a hidden iframe.
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Re: Thousands of Turks accused of using Bylock app despite never having used it
#59FTFY: a shitty government is putting people in jail. Even if we ignore the horrible government and bullshit reasons why they're considering installing an encrypted chat app a "crime", they should at least use proper evidence for the convictions, like a dump of the phone's memory with the chat app installed on it, and not a simple DNS lookup/HTTP request to the chat app's domain.
The article's tacit acknowledgment of the legitimacy of arresting people for having had the app installed at all is pretty off-colour as well.
I'm not completely disagreeing with you, but I often see reporting attempt to speak about something in the context from which it originates. An opinion piece can come later about how unbelievable it is that they do this to begin with.
Re: Thousands of Turks accused of using Bylock app despite never having used it
#60I find it very frustrating to read about such oppressive regimes. It fills me with anger, I cannot help myself, I just hate injustice.
Me too. I find it inexplicable that while our species has progressed so much after 6000 years of civilization, one thing that doesn't seem to have changed is the desire of large sections of people to be led by oppressive maniacs. It's almost like many of us just love handing away our freedoms. Have sociologists studied this phenomenon?
It seems that both sides of the political scene want to control others, it's just one side does it to "maintain order and morals", while the other side does it to "fight hate speech and combat fake news".