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Thousands of Turks accused of using Bylock app despite never having used it

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Re: Thousands of Turks accused of using Bylock app despite never having used it

#11

I find it very frustrating to read about such oppressive regimes. It fills me with anger, I cannot help myself, I just hate injustice.

You’re probably writing this from a country that drops bombs on people without first knowing who they are or why they are there, just that they appear to be male and over a certain height in an area of terrorist activity. No courts. No oversight. No accountability.

What Turkey is doing is terrible but mild in comparison to the drone war.

Re: Thousands of Turks accused of using Bylock app despite never having used it

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post #11

I find it very frustrating to read about such oppressive regimes. It fills me with anger, I cannot help myself, I just hate injustice.

You’re probably writing this from a country that drops bombs on people without first knowing who they are or why they are there, just that they appear to be male and over a certain height in an area of terrorist activity. No courts. No oversight. No accountability. What Turkey is doing is terrible but mild in comparison to the drone war.

Actually I'm quite close to Turkey (I'm from Serbia), though we're not yet that much oppressed.

Re: Thousands of Turks accused of using Bylock app despite never having used it

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post #3

FTFY: a shitty government is putting people in jail. Even if we ignore the horrible government and bullshit reasons why they're considering installing an encrypted chat app a "crime", they should at least use proper evidence for the convictions, like a dump of the phone's memory with the chat app installed on it, and not a simple DNS lookup/HTTP request to the chat app's domain.

Exactly this. People are apparently being jailed for having accessed or simply pinged a forbidden IP/server -- which seemingly could be caused by receiving an email with a hidden img tag, or visiting a website with a hidden iframe.

Re: Thousands of Turks accused of using Bylock app despite never having used it

#16

I find it very frustrating to read about such oppressive regimes. It fills me with anger, I cannot help myself, I just hate injustice.

Embrace it. Let's burn the world and rebuild. And replace it with our own unjust systems, ad infinitum.

It's worth doing. The big will screw the small just because they can. But this always happens, everywhere. How does it feel being a slave to a paycheck and a career? It's such an ingrained concept that few people question why businesses are allowed to extract 10 hours of your life five days a week. That's time you won't ever get back, and for what? Money? To do what? You won't reach that three million mark. And those who have three million can kick back and live off $125k/yr returns with no effort.

The whole system, everywhere, is fucked. And it's hard to restrain disgust for it.

Re: Thousands of Turks accused of using Bylock app despite never having used it

#17

Can someone familiar with the situation explain how the employers know they used Bylock before the police raid?

It says in the article

  She knew the arrest was coming. She'd already lost her job, because traces of the app known as Bylock were found on her phone.

Re: Thousands of Turks accused of using Bylock app despite never having used it

#18

Can someone familiar with the situation explain how the employers know they used Bylock before the police raid?

It says in the article She knew the arrest was coming. She'd already lost her job, because traces of the app known as Bylock were found on her phone.

Yes but whats the process? Were traces of the app found by her employer? Are employers searching employees phones?

Re: Thousands of Turks accused of using Bylock app despite never having used it

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post #3

FTFY: a shitty government is putting people in jail. Even if we ignore the horrible government and bullshit reasons why they're considering installing an encrypted chat app a "crime", they should at least use proper evidence for the convictions, like a dump of the phone's memory with the chat app installed on it, and not a simple DNS lookup/HTTP request to the chat app's domain.

The article's tacit acknowledgment of the legitimacy of arresting people for having had the app installed at all is pretty off-colour as well.

Re: Thousands of Turks accused of using Bylock app despite never having used it

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It says in the article She knew the arrest was coming. She'd already lost her job, because traces of the app known as Bylock were found on her phone.

Yes but whats the process? Were traces of the app found by her employer? Are employers searching employees phones?

I am assuming data is shared by mobile operators to government. And then they fired everyone on that list and works at the government
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