I couldn't really figure this out from the article: What's the link between antibiotic-resistant bacteria, and manure run-off/sewage? It's obvious that there'd be more bacteria, but what's the deal specifically with them being antibiotic-resistant?
Surfers three times more likely to have antibiotic-resistant bacteria in guts
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#62I couldn't really figure this out from the article: What's the link between antibiotic-resistant bacteria, and manure run-off/sewage? It's obvious that there'd be more bacteria, but what's the deal specifically with them being antibiotic-resistant?
Probably something to do with the fact that cattle are given loads of antibiotics, and are therefore more likely to host resistant bacteria.
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#63I couldn't really figure this out from the article: What's the link between antibiotic-resistant bacteria, and manure run-off/sewage? It's obvious that there'd be more bacteria, but what's the deal specifically with them being antibiotic-resistant?
Antibiotics are heavily abused to help the survival of farm animals that are kept in really bad conditions. One horror story from big farms around here where I live is that in summer they spray cows with water to cool them in overcrowded boxes that they're kept in. But problem is that those cows are then left all wet and will often catch a cold and develop a pneumonia if untreated, so farmers give them antibiotics regularly to prevent this. I know this for cattle farms first-hand, but I've heard that pig farms are even worse offenders.
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> What I recall reading is that when people with CF surfed, their general prognosis was overall better. Why would you think of sea salt as the relevant factor instead of the very well known positive effects on breathing and lung capacity caused by swimming?
Firsthand personal experience. I was consuming sea salt to great benefit and looking for studies that might cast light on the relationship between sea salt and cystic fibrosis. Exercise also has played a significant role in my improvement. I am not discounting the impact it has. I just am baffled that they found that surfing benefits people with CF and their primary takeaway is that it must be beneficial to breath da…
Exercise in conditions that involved inhalation of hypertonic saline during a period of increased tidal respiration, in a setting that reduces the amount of sweating typically experienced during exercise.
It’s not baffling.
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That sewage is gross but the waves that break right near the outflow look ass kicking https://youtu.be/gcMqr_vbInI
Imperial Beach is supposed to have one of the best beach breaks in San Diego county besides Black’s, but even the mayor got sick from surfing it. Major bummer. http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/environment/sd-me-t...
> even the mayor got sick from surfing it. Major bummer.
You'd think those damn bugs would know better than to get the mayor.
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#66Totally worth it. Just your periodic reminder that Surfing is one of the most fun things that a person can do on this planet, as evidenced by the fact that so many people have essentially dropped out of society and dedicated their lives to doing it every day. If you live in a place near the water such as, say, the San Francisco Bay Area, and you have never tried surfing, you owe it to yourself to head down to Santa C…
If instead you're near the mountains you can get into climbing (or even if you have a climbing gym nearby). Also highly addictive.
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As I understand it, they don't get paid for prescribing stuff. Rather, they get paid for persuading other physicians to prescribe stuff. Through speaking fees, payments for putting their name on favorable publications, and so on.
> As I understand it, they don't get paid for prescribing stuff. Yes, this kind of practice has now been outlawed in many developed countries, but there are tons of indirect ways a doctor can get "favors" from a company. Free lunches, invitation to seminars, scholarships, speaking fees as you mention (which can be pretty, pretty generous), publications, reviews, advisory boards, etc... So, let's not be naive. Patient…
Somewhat interesting: My sister is a PA and she said the ethics at the clinics she's worked at at forbid you from taking the lunch offers. Apparently those sort of ethics are more and more common.
So instead they invite you out to expensive dinners which is of course during off hours.
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#68If the surfers are swallowing that much water why aren't more of them carries? Is it possible some of them for some reason have a natural "immunity"?
Also, it's at least possible (in theory) it's not the water at all. What if, just an example, many of them have the same weed dealer? Perhaps not the ideal example. But life is complex and surfing might not be THE common tread for this situation.
Or what if they ate ice cream? (Note: I know the difference between bacteria and virus. The link is simply to suggest the possibility of some other "trigger.")
https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/01/the-curious-case-of-...
Re: Surfers three times more likely to have antibiotic-resistant bacteria in guts
#69Totally worth it. Just your periodic reminder that Surfing is one of the most fun things that a person can do on this planet, as evidenced by the fact that so many people have essentially dropped out of society and dedicated their lives to doing it every day. If you live in a place near the water such as, say, the San Francisco Bay Area, and you have never tried surfing, you owe it to yourself to head down to Santa C…
If instead you're near the mountains you can get into climbing (or even if you have a climbing gym nearby). Also highly addictive.
Climbing is a different type of addiction. In the mountains, I'd think that paragliding or snowboarding are better alternatives to surfing.
Re: Surfers three times more likely to have antibiotic-resistant bacteria in guts
#70Totally worth it. Just your periodic reminder that Surfing is one of the most fun things that a person can do on this planet, as evidenced by the fact that so many people have essentially dropped out of society and dedicated their lives to doing it every day. If you live in a place near the water such as, say, the San Francisco Bay Area, and you have never tried surfing, you owe it to yourself to head down to Santa C…
some even go on heists to fund their surfing habit, I saw a documentary about it once.