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That's how I feel configuring networking and load balancers and other backend stuff. I know its essential but for some reason front end and all its quirks makes more sense to me

It makes little sense to us as well, that's why we've invented the term "DevOps", and offloaded the real work to those (mostly bearded) dudes.

That's the opposite of DevOps - that's the old model of separate development and operations teams (the "throw artifact over the wall"-model).

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I'd like to see pro and cons for all the lower 'smaller' frameworks and methods. Maybe we can contribute? I have used many of them. Seems like the ones with pros and cons, React, Vue, Angular etc everyone already knows. I think there is opportunity here to give more depth to lesser known frameworks. The top 5 are pretty well discussed at this point.

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It discourages us full time FEs too. Webpack and a full transpile pipeline is still relatively new to JavaScript but it seems like we’re starting to land on some assumptions (and thus making this a more turnkey process) ES6 Route based lazy loading Some sort of typing (TypeScript or FlowType) CSSModules React with JSX Redux The reason it’s been so difficult is because we’ve had a sort of Wild West mentality where we…

Parcel is a new configuration-free build pipeline that's new. https://github.com/parcel-bundler/parcel It's still missing a few things like dead-code elimination.

My shop does not use any front-end build system because of the trouble of setting it up and we don't like cli to create a template for us too because it takes time to study how to change such a template to suit our need. If parcel gets mature support of vue, we may use it and skip webpack for the next project

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I come from a pure HTML + CSS + JS (mostly via jQuery) background. My career has headed in a direction that focusses a lot less in the frontend web, but every 2 months or so I read one of these guides and I get giddy - "Finally, I will teach myself angular/vue/react/backbone/knockout". After about 10 minutes I am filled with dread. I expect to learn about a specific piece of software, instead, I am greeted with requi…

Don't expect to learn React (or Angular) in an afternoon by reading a couple of tutorials.

Go to Udemy.com . Buy a couple of courses for $20 and spend a week following them.

After that week, you will be able to start programming in React.

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Mithril is a good one

I second Mithril as a great choice. Two things I wrote in it:

https://narrafirma.com/try-narrafirma/

https://github.com/pdfernhout/Twirlip7

Combining Mithril ( https://mithril.js.org/ ) with Tachyons ( http://tachyons.io/) or a similar CSS approach is also a great option to avoid having to write that much CSS. That way almost all your code can be in one language and easy to refactor -- especially if you use TypeScript.

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Ember isn't anywhere close to dead.

LinkedIn, Apple, Microsoft Store, DigitalOcean, Twitch.tv... Still actively developing on Ember.js. Version 3.0 is coming soon.

Unlike React/Vue EmberJS has LTS support releases as well which is less risky for corporations.

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I come from a pure HTML + CSS + JS (mostly via jQuery) background. My career has headed in a direction that focusses a lot less in the frontend web, but every 2 months or so I read one of these guides and I get giddy - "Finally, I will teach myself angular/vue/react/backbone/knockout". After about 10 minutes I am filled with dread. I expect to learn about a specific piece of software, instead, I am greeted with requi…

I recently started to build an electron application using the electron-vue boilerplate. Dear god, there is a ton of garbage in that boiler plate! Not to mention boilerplate is such a code smell. With so much base stuff baked into that base, it makes it difficult to add new components and really understand what's going on. Still I'm glad my first step into Vue is through an electron app so I'm not dealing with figurin…

Qt, wxWindows, etc.

Re: Guide to JavaScript Frameworks

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I come from a pure HTML + CSS + JS (mostly via jQuery) background. My career has headed in a direction that focusses a lot less in the frontend web, but every 2 months or so I read one of these guides and I get giddy - "Finally, I will teach myself angular/vue/react/backbone/knockout". After about 10 minutes I am filled with dread. I expect to learn about a specific piece of software, instead, I am greeted with requi…

Don't expect to learn React (or Angular) in an afternoon by reading a couple of tutorials. Go to Udemy.com . Buy a couple of courses for $20 and spend a week following them. After that week, you will be able to start programming in React.

The official React tutorial is excellent and I learned the basics of React from that and was up and programming in a day. It took me a couple of weeks to understand the library in more depth, but there just isn't a whole lot to React. For Angular I agree it takes far longer.
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