Greeks are abandoning cigarettes in record numbers

Post by chimen » Sat, Jan 20, 2018, 10:07 PM UTC

baumbart wrote: post #17

I would never want to become a business partner with someone who is smoking cigarettes. Why? For me it indicates a lack of intelligence, not being good at dealing with stress and bad long-term thinking. When smoking cigarettes you are paying twice - first when spending money in order to ruin your health, and many years later when you are spending money on health-care in order to fix your ruined health. The Greeks hav…

Post by [deleted] » Sat, Jan 20, 2018, 10:09 PM UTC

chimen wrote: post #32

baumbart wrote: post #17

I would never want to become a business partner with someone who is smoking cigarettes. Why? For me it indicates a lack of intelligence, not being good at dealing with stress and bad long-term thinking. When smoking cigarettes you are paying twice - first when spending money in order to ruin your health, and many years later when you are spending money on health-care in order to fix your ruined health. The Greeks hav…

I find your arguments a bit shallow. I know extraordinary people who like to smoke. How can you say a smoker has a "lack of intelligence" and what makes you think people smoke from stress? I smoke from 16 to 35 and I never did it because of stress (yes I smoked when stressed too) - for me it was that calmness it gave. I could concentrate more than I can now as a non-smoker - I could go deeper and stay there for bigge…

Post by rubber_duck » Sat, Jan 20, 2018, 10:15 PM UTC

matwood wrote: post #31

Rebelgecko wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you feel the same way about having a business partner that drinks alcohol or is overweight?

> that drinks alcohol I haven't really thought about whether I would be a business partner with someone, but in this case quantity certainly matters. When people say smoker, it is implied someone who smokes often and constantly throughout the day - 24/7. The equivalent drinker would be an alcoholic, not just someone who has a beer on Friday.

Post by kjksf » Sat, Jan 20, 2018, 10:16 PM UTC

dmix wrote: post #20

mabbo wrote: post #4

The only measure that has ever been shown to work to reduce smoking is to make smoking less affordable. Tax cigarettes and people smoke less. Tax them highly and kids sure can't afford them. It's more politically easy to put money into paying celebrities to beg kids not to smoke, but it's not actually effective. It's just theater so politicians can say they tried. Here, Greece is seeing the affordability fall just be…

> The only measure that has ever been shown to work to reduce smoking is to make smoking less affordable. [citation needed] I grew up with plenty of poor high school kids who had no problem finding cigarettes even when the taxes were jacked up on them here in Canada. I know many of them as adults who continued to smoke even as the price has continued to climb over the last 10yrs. I've never heard anyone say they quit…

Post by Feniks » Sat, Jan 20, 2018, 10:18 PM UTC

HenryBemis wrote: post #27

Knowing Greeks, they are definitely not "abandoning cigarettes in record numbers". Some do quit smoking, as it is pretty expensive and 70% or the cigarettes price is taxes. But most turn to black-market cigarettes and tobacco.