Greeks are abandoning cigarettes in record numbers

The only measure that has ever been shown to work to reduce smoking is to make smoking less affordable. Tax cigarettes and people smoke less. Tax them highly and kids sure can't afford them.

It's more politically easy to put money into paying celebrities to beg kids not to smoke, but it's not actually effective. It's just theater so politicians can say they tried.

Here, Greece is seeing the affordability fall just because the affordability of everything is falling for them. The result is the same.

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Post by felipemnoa » Sat, Jan 20, 2018, 9:25 PM UTC

mabbo wrote: post #4

The only measure that has ever been shown to work to reduce smoking is to make smoking less affordable. Tax cigarettes and people smoke less. Tax them highly and kids sure can't afford them. It's more politically easy to put money into paying celebrities to beg kids not to smoke, but it's not actually effective. It's just theater so politicians can say they tried. Here, Greece is seeing the affordability fall just be…

>>The only measure that has ever been shown to work to reduce smoking is to make smoking less affordable.

Doesn't this just create an illegal distribution network that sells them cheaper?

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Post by Iwan-Zotow » Sat, Jan 20, 2018, 9:28 PM UTC

theparanoid wrote: post #2

The missing data point is how many Greeks have switched to vaping.

No, the missing data point is ciggies contraband

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Post by appdrag » Sat, Jan 20, 2018, 9:30 PM UTC

When you have to choose between food on the table and cigarettes in the pocket... I guess it's easy to quit smoking...

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Post by phoe-krk » Sat, Jan 20, 2018, 9:34 PM UTC

felipemnoa wrote: post #5

mabbo wrote: post #4

The only measure that has ever been shown to work to reduce smoking is to make smoking less affordable. Tax cigarettes and people smoke less. Tax them highly and kids sure can't afford them. It's more politically easy to put money into paying celebrities to beg kids not to smoke, but it's not actually effective. It's just theater so politicians can say they tried. Here, Greece is seeing the affordability fall just be…

>>The only measure that has ever been shown to work to reduce smoking is to make smoking less affordable. Doesn't this just create an illegal distribution network that sells them cheaper?

Nowhere to get cheaper tobacco from, nothing to distribute cheaper.

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Post by hugh4life » Sat, Jan 20, 2018, 9:34 PM UTC

I would like to see one country go all in vaping(and snus) and completely ban cigarettes.

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Post by nvus » Sat, Jan 20, 2018, 9:37 PM UTC

I believe other factors are at play, neither the anti-smoking campaigns or the affordability of the cigarettes is representing the data. A mixture of contraband, alternatives and other factors are at play, unfortunately Greece is going to battle cigs for a long time unless drastic measures are taken.