The curious star appeal of Jordan Peterson
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The curious star appeal of Jordan Peterson
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#2A loser posting a story about a loser.
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#3> In 2016 he made a stand against the Canadian government’s introduction of a law that aimed to make it a crime not to address people by their preferred gender pronouns (regardless of chromosomes).
I'm pretty sure that's a gross misrepresentation of that law. From the little I know about it, I think it was more about adding "using the wrong pronoun" as a possible aggravating circumstance to consider when somebody is already being harassed:
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/canadian-lawmakers-p...
> The bill adds prohibitions against discrimination on the basis of gender identity and gender expression to the Canadian Human Rights Act, amends the criminal code to extend protections against hate speech and allows judges to take into consideration when sentencing whether a crime was motivated by hatred of the victim’s gender identity or expression.
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#4I'm sad that some enthusiastic well meaning lefties often associate Peterson with the extreme right. If anything, this man is radically centrist. It's just that he debunks extreme right wing arguments in 5 sentences instead of the 2 hour long talks he uses to address what he calls neo-marxism.
I think people like him might very well help keep disgruntled young men away from the extreme right, by offering a moderate alternative.
We should celebrate that long, balanced arguments get so much mainstream attention, even if we don't agree with them.
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#5I prefer the chronicle.com article that appeared on the HN frontpage yesterday (and was swiftly burried, I suspect). It offered a broader context.
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#6To give someone a better idea who Jordan Peterson is and his experience with those in mass media:
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/01/watch-cathy-newmans-ca...
I knew of Peterson but never read his work nor heard him speak.
This interview could be an important piece for university level discussion. I think it summarizes problems among the media and intellectuals like Peterson.
Re: The curious star appeal of Jordan Peterson
#7To give someone a better idea who Jordan Peterson is and his experience with those in mass media: https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/01/watch-cathy-newmans-ca... I knew of Peterson but never read his work nor heard him speak. This interview could be an important piece for university level discussion. I think it summarizes problems among the media and intellectuals like Peterson.
Watch: Cathy Newman’s catastrophic interview with Jordan Peterson
I don't really know who he is other than seeing his name popup on Youtube regularly however I do note that his supporters always use that sort of language, often watch X destroy Y in an interview.
There seem to be minorities at the extremes shouting past each other whilst the rest of us get on with our lives and wonder what all the fuss is about.
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#8> In 2016 he made a stand against the Canadian government’s introduction of a law that aimed to make it a crime not to address people by their preferred gender pronouns (regardless of chromosomes). I'm pretty sure that's a gross misrepresentation of that law. From the little I know about it, I think it was more about adding "using the wrong pronoun" as a possible aggravating circumstance to consider when somebody is…
His conflict started with the Ontario Human Rights Commission policy which clearly includes gender pronouns. That is often getting mixed up with when he also spoke out against C 16 later, with different arguments.
http://www.ohrc.on.ca/en/policy-preventing-discrimination-be...
I think you are right that just in C 16 there is nothing about compelled speech. My understanding of his position is that it's part of a slippery slope, and the interpretation of discrimination or hate speech could easily extend to using the wrong gender pronouns.
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#9To give someone a better idea who Jordan Peterson is and his experience with those in mass media: https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/01/watch-cathy-newmans-ca... I knew of Peterson but never read his work nor heard him speak. This interview could be an important piece for university level discussion. I think it summarizes problems among the media and intellectuals like Peterson.
Watch: Cathy Newman’s catastrophic interview with Jordan Peterson I don't really know who he is other than seeing his name popup on Youtube regularly however I do note that his supporters always use that sort of language, often watch X destroy Y in an interview. There seem to be minorities at the extremes shouting past each other whilst the rest of us get on with our lives and wonder what all the fuss is about.
The Spectator does seem to be in his corner. These articles are from the same source.
I didn't know who Peterson was but like you had also heard about him. I watched that interview and have a better idea.
This interview could be an important piece for university level discussion. I think it summarizes problems among the media and intellectuals like Peterson.
Re: The curious star appeal of Jordan Peterson
#10To give someone a better idea who Jordan Peterson is and his experience with those in mass media: https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/01/watch-cathy-newmans-ca... I knew of Peterson but never read his work nor heard him speak. This interview could be an important piece for university level discussion. I think it summarizes problems among the media and intellectuals like Peterson.
Watch: Cathy Newman’s catastrophic interview with Jordan Peterson I don't really know who he is other than seeing his name popup on Youtube regularly however I do note that his supporters always use that sort of language, often watch X destroy Y in an interview. There seem to be minorities at the extremes shouting past each other whilst the rest of us get on with our lives and wonder what all the fuss is about.
I think "watch X destroy Y" is just youtube's version of clickbait. I suspect you'll find videos like that tailored to most groups on youtube. I sometimes use them as trailers for longer talks that I might enjoy - although I always feel a little guilty for encouraging this sort of thing.
In this case I found their interview to be excellent viewing. She was harsh and honest with him, and hurled most of the standard criticism at Peterson that people talk about. And while doing that she gave him the time and opportunity to respond. And he stayed calm, considered, articulate and entertaining throughout. I don't agree with everything either of them said, but I enjoyed watching that interview immensely - its exactly the sort of thing I want to see more of on youtube and in the public sphere.