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That comment makes me chuckle. These days, I have close to zero faith in commercial software that is "free", assuming that the business model is selling my data. I happily paid for Little Snitch and was comforted by the fact that I was the customer.
This comment makes me chuckle. The idea that since you pay for something means that the company won't sell your data.
LuLu: An open-source macOS firewall that blocks unknown outgoing connections
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Re: LuLu: An open-source macOS firewall that blocks unknown outgoing connections
#82For those on Windows, http://www.sphinx-soft.com/Vista/index.html does the same using the native firewall (so no 3rd party dependencies, services, or bloat) (though they've ~recently added paid licenses with more features to their basic offering). I only wish it were cleaner and simpler. I don't think the Windows Firewall API is too bad, I should add this to my bucket list of open source software to write that I'll m…
TinyWall... other LittleSnitch-like apps on windows aren't anywhere near as nice as LittleSnitch, but TinyWall gets rid of the crappy prompts firing a million times a day until you configure it (the thing that sucks is apps like ChromeUpdate and others can get around the firewall somehow, so if you're set to prompt, it will prompt you all day long, so TinyWall makes it all sane).
Re: LuLu: An open-source macOS firewall that blocks unknown outgoing connections
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
Non-commercial clauses are explicitly prohibited by the OSD.
open-source != Open Source open-source == source code is open Open Source == licensed compliant with the OSI's OSD right?
Are you seriously arguing that you can arbitrarily change the meaning of well understood words simply by adding a dash to them ?
Re: LuLu: An open-source macOS firewall that blocks unknown outgoing connections
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
That comment makes me chuckle. These days, I have close to zero faith in commercial software that is "free", assuming that the business model is selling my data. I happily paid for Little Snitch and was comforted by the fact that I was the customer.
This comment makes me chuckle. The idea that since you pay for something means that the company won't sell your data.
It doesn’t guarantee it, no. But it does mean that there are fewer incentives in place to do so.
Re: LuLu: An open-source macOS firewall that blocks unknown outgoing connections
#85Looks promising. I used to use Little Snitch, but last year they decided to charge for the new version, and I uninstalled it. Little Snitch was effective, but overly complex for the average user. I'm sure it's great for someone who configures networks on a regular basis, but as a Mac user, I just want to use my Mac. If I wanted to twiddle with security settings all day long, I'd still be on Windows. This looks like i…
That comment makes me chuckle. These days, I have close to zero faith in commercial software that is "free", assuming that the business model is selling my data. I happily paid for Little Snitch and was comforted by the fact that I was the customer.
Indeed. I'm especially suspicious of "security" software. Releasing free high quality security seems to be a popular attack vector for advertisers, spammers, hackers, and nation states.
Re: LuLu: An open-source macOS firewall that blocks unknown outgoing connections
#86Unless I'm mistaken, this isn't actually open source, as it's under a non-commercial clause. edit: there is an open issue about it: https://github.com/objective-see/LuLu/issues/4
1. The OSI tried to get a trademark for “open source” in their early days and failed.[1] They don’t own the term, and arguing fine distinctions like this does nothing but promote flame wars.[2]
2. The developer put a lot of effort into this and was generous enough to make this available for free with the source code open. Please be gracious, because belligerent feedback like this is what causes people to sometimes reconsider making software free or open source.[3]
3. You also falsely claim Patrick Wardle is aware of the issue and refuses to change it, even though he hasn’t commented on the issue you cited, at least as I write this.
[1] https://opensource.org/pressreleases/certified-open-source.p...
[2] cf. every discussion board or mailing list where issues like this have come up.
[3] https://www.reddit.com/r/Clojure/comments/73yznc/comment/do1...
Re: LuLu: An open-source macOS firewall that blocks unknown outgoing connections
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It would save lives, time, and money for everyone I'll give you "lives" and "money," but not necessarily time. I live in a place where self-driving vehicles can be spotted fairly regularly. Once a week or so. You can tell by the special license plates. They are always very ponderous, careful drivers. It's fascinating to see them gently slow to a stop for a red light, then take off like a jackrabbit when it turns gr…
I am pretty sure that is because they have to account for all the non-self-driving cars. If all cars were self driving, they could co-ordinate and go a lot faster.
They'll still have to allow for pedestrians and bikes, for the foreseeable future.
Re: LuLu: An open-source macOS firewall that blocks unknown outgoing connections
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
That comment makes me chuckle. These days, I have close to zero faith in commercial software that is "free", assuming that the business model is selling my data. I happily paid for Little Snitch and was comforted by the fact that I was the customer.
Nothing prevents companies that sell you proprietary software from also selling your data.
True. But in practice, a software company that's making money from users has a lot of incentive not to harm their brand, or open themselves up to competition, by being shady.
It does happen but users are waking up to the problem and companies are learning.
Re: LuLu: An open-source macOS firewall that blocks unknown outgoing connections
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nothing prevents companies that sell you proprietary software from also selling your data.
Well I'm assuming things like this helps: We do not share nor sell your data. https://www.obdev.at/privacy-policy.html However you may be referring to the same notion that nothing stops someone from murdering someone else.
Until the company is acquired. And then the disclaimer disappears silently.
Re: LuLu: An open-source macOS firewall that blocks unknown outgoing connections
#90I've been using all Objective See projects, but I have issues with:
- stability - often their tools have memory leaks;
- consistent UX - each tool looks and behaves differently;
- stacking of dialogs - often by the time I click, a new popup replaces the old one, and I approve something I don't even get a chance to see!