Some people are better athletes than others, but anyone who trains will be better than someone who does not, regardless of any innate potential. I see creativity along the same lines. Many folks are conditioned to memorize, follow processes, follow norms and paths laid by others, it may not occur to them to seek out originality. It is another form of learned helplessness. Creating is hard, especially when judged in a…
> but anyone who trains will be better than someone who does not, regardless of any innate potential I disagree. The genetic lottery is unfair; and some people are just better than you no matter what you do, and no matter what they don't do.
Why Are Some People More Creative Than Others?
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#22I take issue with the basic premise. I don't think people are more creative than others at all; rather I believe that people exercise/express their creativity more than others. It's the difference between being dealt a card and choosing it for yourself.
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#23It tends to become a touchy subject when you suggest that brain functionality differs between people but we seem to blindly accept that some people make better athletes than others.
It is particularly hard because you can't simply look at somebody and make any sort of judgement about ones mental abilities and there sometimes is no rhyme or reason why one person is more creative, or smarter than the other.
For me, I am a strong believer that brain functions are much like those of our physical counterparts. While the majority of people can all train the body up to run 1, 5, or 10 miles or more some people will simply have to exert less effort and be able to run further or faster than others. The same goes for brain functions. We can all be "good" in math, science, reading excreta... But only a subset of us will be experts in those subjects or even all of those subjects.
I think there is a lot to be studied how how early brain development can push the boundaries for the given set of hardware you are born with. But at some point I think you are mostly locked into what you have.
This is a hard topic to even begin to study. Because while two people may be able to preform the same mental functions we don't have a good way of judging amount of effort, and prep time required. For example, somebody who is just introduced to a new consept and can preformed the mental functions within minutes of introduction vs somebody who can preform the same mental functions but required 2 years of practice. The two people have very different cognitive capabilities, and you could argue one is smarter than the other.
As for the notion that we are not all the same. Please don't take that as we should be treating each other different based off skills. I think with regards of us all being human we all deserve the same level of respect and opportunity in life. My interest in this subject is based on the notion that we could have happier lives if this sort of subject was less taboo and we could explore making life decisions based off our actual aptitude. I would much rather work with people, and do a job that I found "easier" every day than a job that I could do that I found "hard". While that is a very black and white statement that is not to mean that I don't want a challenge, but it does mean that I don't want to constantly be struggling.
I see this in the world already. Where people take jobs they hate, because their aptitude is simply low for that line of work. Where everything is constantly a uphill battle. I can't help to wonder how much better their life would be had they picked a different job where the work came more easy and maybe even considered fun to them. I was lucky to find a job where there is just enough hard stuff to keep me busy, but the bulk of the work I find easy. I think a lot of people who found their way into software experience this. Meanwhile I have friends who can't wait till the work day is over and generally hate their job and complain about how hard it is.
So simply put, some people are more creative, or smart or any other attribute because we are all different, and had different experiences during critical brain development times in life. I think the expectation that everybody would be the same -- or even have the same aptitude on any given mental exercise would be weird -- unless we were all clones.
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Does that matter? Do you take pride in what you've accomplished, or is the focus on who's better? I'll never "catch up" to Musk, but I'm better than most people simply by trying my own business ideas.
I don't know, doesn't the outcome matter? Trying is admirable, but if a person tries and fails and I never try; at the end of the day we're both in the same place, no?
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#25Is there a name for the fact that articles that start with "Why are ...?", that promise to explain some curiosity, tend to almost never give a satisfying answer? (Usually because it just reports on some small incremental research paper that's still far away from shining a clear lucid light on the bigger picture.) Betteridge's law doesn't apply and clickbait is too broad. Another part of the phenomenon seems to be tha…
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#26You have to create in order to be creative. You have to practice creativity in order to be good at it. You can't just read a book, go to a seminar, or wear funny clothes and expect to suddenly be a "creative genius". It can take years to master.[1]
On the other hand, most children don't have any problem being creative. Somehow by the time we become adults we lose that, and then think we're permanently incapable.
[1] - One of my favorite videos[2] shows the artistic progression of Jonathan Hardesty. In his early work few would detect any hint of "talent", and yet after nine years of hard work, his skill rises to a truly impressive level -- at which point, if one had only seen the end result, a lot of people would call him "talented". But as you can see in the video, he was clearly not born with this "talent". He earned it. That's what it takes.
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#27I take issue with the basic premise. I don't think people are more creative than others at all; rather I believe that people exercise/express their creativity more than others. It's the difference between being dealt a card and choosing it for yourself.
Do you believe that people are equal in regards to everything or just creativity?
This is from experience teaching people to "think outside the box" to write better code, to create/describe better models of the real world, etc. starting with people that you would swear didn't have a creative bone in their body and watching them improve dramatically.
\* (I know I kind of did argue that, but since you're asking outright, this is what I actually believe.)
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#28Some people are better athletes than others, but anyone who trains will be better than someone who does not, regardless of any innate potential. I see creativity along the same lines. Many folks are conditioned to memorize, follow processes, follow norms and paths laid by others, it may not occur to them to seek out originality. It is another form of learned helplessness. Creating is hard, especially when judged in a…
I think of creativity as a kind of skill, that you build through practice.
Reading is a great way to learn new things from different domains.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Does that matter? Do you take pride in what you've accomplished, or is the focus on who's better? I'll never "catch up" to Musk, but I'm better than most people simply by trying my own business ideas.
I don't know, doesn't the outcome matter? Trying is admirable, but if a person tries and fails and I never try; at the end of the day we're both in the same place, no?
I think it depends on how you fail though. If you learn something from the experience, your odds of succeeding on the next try increase. Many goals are achieved through a succession of failures.
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#30This is something we as humans are going to have to deal with at one point or another. While some people would have it that "we are all the same" - the fact is that we are not. It tends to become a touchy subject when you suggest that brain functionality differs between people but we seem to blindly accept that some people make better athletes than others. It is particularly hard because you can't simply look at some…
Consider applying the same to creative effort. Yes, your absolute best effort may beat my absolute best, but we live in a world where most people are not even trying.