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Re: List of oldest companies: Before 1300

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Post by mtberatwork » Fri, Jan 19, 2018, 7:07 PM UTC

dmayle wrote: post #64

navidfarhadi wrote: post #26

The oldest name on this list that stood out to me is Weihenstephan brewery, founded in 1040 in Bavaria, Germany. They have some of the finest lagers I have ever tried. If you enjoy crisp, refreshing lager beers, I highly recommend their beers. My favorite one is probably the Weihenstephaner Hefeweissbier, followed by the Hefeweissbier Dunkel. Note: I am not affiliated in any way with the company, I just highly enjoy…

Beer nazi here... Hefeweizen/weissbier is not a lager. Lagers are cold bottom-fermented beers. Hefeweizen is warm top-fermented beer.

Also the reason as to why so many new microbreweries tend to brew ales rather than lagers. Ales are much more temperamental and can be fermented at around room temperature thereby making homebrewing much more accessible.

Re: List of oldest companies: Before 1300

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Post by lucozade » Fri, Jan 19, 2018, 7:10 PM UTC

btomar wrote: post #115

Why is there no East India Company in this list?

It's not currently in operation and hasn't been since the 19C. Also it wasn't set up till the 17C so is a whippersnapper in comparison to this list.

Re: List of oldest companies: Before 1300

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Post by swerner » Fri, Jan 19, 2018, 7:12 PM UTC

rconti wrote: post #114

navidfarhadi wrote: post #26

The oldest name on this list that stood out to me is Weihenstephan brewery, founded in 1040 in Bavaria, Germany. They have some of the finest lagers I have ever tried. If you enjoy crisp, refreshing lager beers, I highly recommend their beers. My favorite one is probably the Weihenstephaner Hefeweissbier, followed by the Hefeweissbier Dunkel. Note: I am not affiliated in any way with the company, I just highly enjoy…

Lots of breweries. Belgian Abbeys; Grimbergen, Affligem... Can anyone opine on how similar today's beers might taste to how they did "back in the day?" I'm sure some of the beers are based on the original recipes, and with the Reinheitsgebot, it's fairly plausible that all of the ingredients in the German beers in particular are very similar. But I'm not sure how the process might have changed over the years, or how…

Beers today taste nothing like they did back then. Microbiology aside (today's beer is made with pure-bred yeast, back then it was a wild mix of microbes), pale malt was not produced until the 17th or 18th centre, and the pale lager beers we nowadays associate with traditional German beer were developed as late as the 19th century.

Re: List of oldest companies: Before 1300

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Post by jotm » Fri, Jan 19, 2018, 7:12 PM UTC

atomic77 wrote: post #92

Something I can't help but notice: all of the countries on the list are currently wealthy, advanced economies. Cause or effect?

They didn't bother with lesser known countries, good record keeping, fewer wars, definition of company.

Re: List of oldest companies: Before 1300

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Post by Zenst » Fri, Jan 19, 2018, 7:13 PM UTC

linopolus wrote: post #95

Zenst wrote: post #68

There sure is alot of pub and accommodation entries, but then that is one area that technology and indeed, industrialization and the other progressive phases in society have not impacted as much as other industries. On a positive and encourage note - not one single manufacturer of weapons listed at all.

Sorry to disappoint you: 1526 Beretta Italy Firearms 1578 Klett Germany Firearms 1674 Sabatti Italy Firearms

Ah, darn, I missed those somehow, oh well. Appreciate the correction - learn more from being wrong.

Re: List of oldest companies: Before 1300

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Post by jotm » Fri, Jan 19, 2018, 7:14 PM UTC

liberte82 wrote: post #11

mywittyname wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe that it is tradition for the founding family to adopt the next generation head of the business. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_adult_adoption#Econom...

That seems like cheating.

Seems pretty advanced, actually, compared to the incestuous relationships to keep the bloodlines in Europe...

Re: List of oldest companies: Before 1300

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Post by jotm » Fri, Jan 19, 2018, 7:15 PM UTC

nkg wrote: post #83

Surprise! The oldest company in Ireland is a pub.

Well, what did you expect, a potato farm? :D

Re: List of oldest companies: Before 1300

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Post by ViktorV » Fri, Jan 19, 2018, 7:16 PM UTC

btomar wrote: post #115

Why is there no East India Company in this list?

I think the rule is that the company has to be functioning in the present too.

Re: List of oldest companies: Before 1300

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Post by ViktorV » Fri, Jan 19, 2018, 7:18 PM UTC

rurban wrote: post #109

This list looks very suspicious when the largest company ever, the VOC founded 1602 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_East_India_Company founded is not listed there. Apparently only small family companies are listed, not the big ones. The 2nd biggest company of those times, the Fugger copper mining company founded 1494, dissolved 1657 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugger is also not listed, neither the 3rd largest,…

I suppose that the company has to be functioning in the present too.

Re: List of oldest companies: Before 1300

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Post by jedberg » Fri, Jan 19, 2018, 7:20 PM UTC

atomic77 wrote: post #92

Something I can't help but notice: all of the countries on the list are currently wealthy, advanced economies. Cause or effect?

Both? Most likely it's because those countries have strong traditions of record keeping and have been fairly stable culturally.