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Mike Moritz slams politically correct tech culture, praises Chinese work ethic

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Re: Mike Moritz slams politically correct tech culture, praises Chinese work ethic

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Post by tdb7893 »

liberte82 wrote: post #72
scarmig wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"We who engage in nonviolent direct action are not the creators of tension. We merely bring to the surface the hidden tension that is already alive." -MLK

In America, there is a lot of tension near the surface. It might seem like that means we have deep, deep problems. But sometimes when an issue is closer to the surface, that can mean it can no longer be ignored and is closer to needing resolution.

In my opinion the issues are close to the surface because the social enlightenment that much of the US experienced is a very recent thing. The best example is how the views on homosexuality has shifted in the last 20 years but it's also shown in views on race, poverty, and drugs

Re: Mike Moritz slams politically correct tech culture, praises Chinese work ethic

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Post by jjuel »

liberte82 wrote: post #71
jjuel wrote: post #31

There is a reason why buildings in China have nets to prevent suicide and Japan has a work to death problem. Working that much is not good or healthy.

Probably not, but us westerners are going to be forced to compete with them sooner or later.

Is there proof that working 14 hours 6 or 7 days a week is truly more productive than working 8 hours 5 days a week? Theoretically it should be, but I am just curious if there is any science on it.

Re: Mike Moritz slams politically correct tech culture, praises Chinese work ethic

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Post by sidlls »

sremani wrote: post #58

>> "in many respects, doing business in China is easier than doing business in California." There are merits to this discussion and of course, all the comments I have seen including the top one, either simply suggest or put some words in his mouth! The Virtue Signaling on HN is nauseating! Listen to the man, he has better worldly experience than most of us (me, for sure) and read the nuance too (instead of playing th…

I've lived and worked in a half dozen countries. The guy is just stating that he wants thoughtless drones to work as much as he demands for as little as he can pay them, and also not care about anything other than work. He's using slightly different words. There's nothing about his "worldly experience" that makes his statements unique or insightful.

Re: Mike Moritz slams politically correct tech culture, praises Chinese work ethic

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Post by kyledrake »

When you're more productive, you become more valuable and it requires less of your time to do something. This is pretty basic economics here.

If Mike wants to fund a Mythical Man Month play against efficient workers, I wish him the best of luck. I don't think it will work but I'm interested in the results.

Re: Mike Moritz slams politically correct tech culture, praises Chinese work ethic

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Post by greglindahl »

throwaway7312 wrote: post #52
rayiner wrote: post #24

Complaining about Silicon Valley political correctness while extolling the virtues of China is at best tone deaf. It’s pretty much impossible for anyone who has any experience with Asia to deny that racism is just more socially acceptable over there than in the US. And things like homosexuality are suppressed. For example, China recently banned depictions of homosexuality on TV. So of course it’s easier to say certai…

The simplest way of looking at this is that the more power you divide up among increasingly small segments of your population, the more you divide the house. In China, there is the objective of China, where there is a singular focus on what is good for the people and the country. Groups that would take away from this to empower their own group are viewed as attacking the collective. America until the middle of the 19…

Your version of America isn't very historical. The last time we had a big backlash against immigrants was 1923. That was a backlash against swarthy people from Southern Europe, who were living together, still speaking their home language, mostly following an unusual religion (Catholicism), not assimilating, and so forth.

Basically, we're seeing the same complaint today.

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Post by calimac »

Two things: The hypocrisy of Silicon Valley backwards upside down flavor of politically correct practice is at best illogical and at worst Orwellianly feudal.

Silicon Valley has been consumed by beta cucks. The few alphas are in the closet as if they were living as a queer in the 1970’s.

In reality China has been taking the best of the Silicon Valley and whooping them with their Confusious flavor of capitalism.

Update: China of 2008-2015 is gone for now. There is a developing communist nationalism that is squeezing the freedom China enjoyed for the last 15 years. The son of Mao’s top general has his boot on china’s Neck and we will see if he can help Or hinder China in his reign.

China over the last decade is what the Silicon Valley was before chucked liberal lgbqtxyzabc laraza politicians and mentally ill liberals drank to coolaide in the 2000’s.

The population demographics of California has completely changed in the last 7 years.

Now, without massive federal subsidies through tax payer credit, California looks like it’s sinking under the weight of it’s own beuracracy and social safety net.

Re: Mike Moritz slams politically correct tech culture, praises Chinese work ethic

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Post by calimac »

throwaway7312 wrote: post #52
rayiner wrote: post #24

Complaining about Silicon Valley political correctness while extolling the virtues of China is at best tone deaf. It’s pretty much impossible for anyone who has any experience with Asia to deny that racism is just more socially acceptable over there than in the US. And things like homosexuality are suppressed. For example, China recently banned depictions of homosexuality on TV. So of course it’s easier to say certai…

The simplest way of looking at this is that the more power you divide up among increasingly small segments of your population, the more you divide the house. In China, there is the objective of China, where there is a singular focus on what is good for the people and the country. Groups that would take away from this to empower their own group are viewed as attacking the collective. America until the middle of the 19…

Please show me how: Diversity under our post 1965 immigration policy has benefited us?

And what is the protection of our own American diversity?

Re: Mike Moritz slams politically correct tech culture, praises Chinese work ethic

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Post by cocktailpeanuts »

GVIrish wrote: post #78
cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #55

I agree with this guy. I know I'll be downvoted to oblivion but gotta say what i gotta say. I'm not saying political correctness is bad, and I don't think this guy is saying that either. He's just stating the facts and I would like to also just state the facts. There are way more conflicts and drama and scandals in America because Americans are much more "woke" than citizens of other parts of the world. Again, this i…

> If you look at "less woke" developing countries around the world, they don't have this sense of social justice because they don't have the luxury. So they do whatever is possible to increase their GDP. They don't have that sense of social justice for a number of reasons. Having lived in the developing world, one big component is that the legal system is not set up to prevent exploitation of the many by the few who…

I agree with all your points.

But that's not what the comment was about.

Re: Mike Moritz slams politically correct tech culture, praises Chinese work ethic

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Post by dhoulb »

I’ve definitely noticed tech, especially tech press, getting much more political and negative in the last few years.

I don’t really know if it’s the WHOLE of tech (or just how it’s reported), but it definitely feels like a downer right now.

As a tech liberal dreamer, it’s totally getting to me.

I want to read about interesting new solutions to problems, but at the moment it seems mostly like negative press about Uber.

Obviously it’s responsible to call it when conpanies do bad things, but is tech really unethical on the scale of pharma or agrobusiness or fast food? Doesn’t seem so. ( I get that they’re tech press so they’ll only report on tech, but context would be nice).

Feels like the optimism is gone?

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