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Mike Moritz slams politically correct tech culture, praises Chinese work ethic

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Re: Mike Moritz slams politically correct tech culture, praises Chinese work ethic

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Complaining about Silicon Valley political correctness while extolling the virtues of China is at best tone deaf. It’s pretty much impossible for anyone who has any experience with Asia to deny that racism is just more socially acceptable over there than in the US. And things like homosexuality are suppressed. For example, China recently banned depictions of homosexuality on TV. So of course it’s easier to say certai…

That’s the difference between a society where tensions are high because we’re actively trying to work through the challenges faced by our minority groups, and one where there are no tensions because the concerns of minority groups are completely suppressed.

This EXACTLY. Of course there is way less culture clash in China, cultures that aren't China explicitly get beat the hell down. That's not a solution, and I think China is going to be a lesson for the rest of humanity within the next 30 years or so as to why just telling everyone to shut up or they'll be killed isn't a sustainable long term solution to social harmony.

Re: Mike Moritz slams politically correct tech culture, praises Chinese work ethic

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So basically, to us American techies, shut up and start working 100 hour weeks? What a delightful fellow. I wonder if he’s going to lead by example, or if he thinks 14-hour days are only for underlings.

Exactly, do it or else he's going to take his ball and go home (or take his fund's money and go to China) But don't tell him what happens if he ever tries to take his money OUT of China, we can let that be a "fun" learning experience for him.

Doing business in China is basically giving them your IP for free. China is due for a rude awakening from the west.

Re: Mike Moritz slams politically correct tech culture, praises Chinese work ethic

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I agree some parts of our society have basically forbidden any kind of discussion. That is in need of real change. Respectable and honest discussions between adults should be allowed. Sucks that conference speakers are being "checked" for political affiliations. Why not let the topic stand on its own? But of course, everyone is free to not listen to people that don't support them in some way. It's a delicate line. >…

Conference speakers being checked for political affiliation is crazy but not surprising - are there specific examples of this?

On sites like reddit you often see reasonable arguments shot down based on the author's political leanings gleaned from their comment history. The chilling effect is made clear when you see people having to preface their commentary with "I hate x, but... {insert argument here}"

Re: Mike Moritz slams politically correct tech culture, praises Chinese work ethic

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What does having discussions about ethics, morality or equality have to do with working 14 hour, six day workweeks (84h)? Look, there's genuinely important discussions to be had right now. If he wants his son to grow up addicted to a social network he interfaces with through a screen, or his daughter to be subjected to casual sexism, because it'd hurt some engineers' feelings to be confronted with that toxic reality,…

>What does having discussions about ethics, morality or equality have to do with working 14 hour, six day workweeks (84h)?

Because the former is just cover for the latter, which is the real concern. He, like most of his type, wants his underlings to work as much as possible for as little as possible without any complaints. This has become annoyingly hard to enforce in the US, so off to a dictatorship where the drones don't have those options.

Re: Mike Moritz slams politically correct tech culture, praises Chinese work ethic

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"Engineers have slightly different habits: they will appear about 10am and leave at midnight." I actually agree with Moritz on some points, but this... all I can say is, from an employee perspective, this only makes sense IF you're going to get rich as a result. And the average startup employee does not get enough equity to get rich even in the event of a successful exit, so there's no reason to do this kind of stuff…

Working more is almost never the solution. If you have to work from 8am until 10pm, you're just doing something wrong. Does he himself work from 8am until 10pm?

He actually probably does. But he's a schmoozer, he's always working. Plus, the more he works, the more his net worth multiplies. It's not the same at all, even if it looks the same to him.

Re: Mike Moritz slams politically correct tech culture, praises Chinese work ethic

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post #24

Complaining about Silicon Valley political correctness while extolling the virtues of China is at best tone deaf. It’s pretty much impossible for anyone who has any experience with Asia to deny that racism is just more socially acceptable over there than in the US. And things like homosexuality are suppressed. For example, China recently banned depictions of homosexuality on TV. So of course it’s easier to say certai…

Not to mention let him try to comment on the way the government or even his government-affiliated business partners there are run and see how "open minded" they are then.

Re: Mike Moritz slams politically correct tech culture, praises Chinese work ethic

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post #24

Complaining about Silicon Valley political correctness while extolling the virtues of China is at best tone deaf. It’s pretty much impossible for anyone who has any experience with Asia to deny that racism is just more socially acceptable over there than in the US. And things like homosexuality are suppressed. For example, China recently banned depictions of homosexuality on TV. So of course it’s easier to say certai…

i’ve never found a country less racist than the us

I agree with this, at least with the caveat that places that might do better tend to be much smaller. Friends from other countries who have tried to question why the U.S. seems to have so much trouble with this don't seem to be factoring in challenges from our diversity, history, and even the high level of freedom that citizens have to express themselves.

Re: Mike Moritz slams politically correct tech culture, praises Chinese work ethic

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Haha a bunch of over privileged kids pretending they don't make ungodly amounts of money over the average person in their own wealthy country while complaining about how the weight of the progressive world is on their shoulders as they fight to solve all the modern problems of an advanced society!!!

OH GOD! Oh poor me.

Fuck them. It's about work. Work bitch and that means shut the fuck up and work.

Fuckin SF.

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