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Or buying back shares.
Same thing, modulo tax treatment and accounting.
That's a big modulo though, most investors react differently to the two.
Intel to buy McAfee for $7.7 Billion
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You might want to brush up on the Glass-Steagall Act, which expressly prohibits these types of activities within organizations. i.e. ... "The Wall" And with Goldman under the regulatory microscope right now, I bet they are on the straight and narrow.
The glass-steagall act which was repealed in the late 90s and which many people point to as the key piece of deregulation that kicked off the housing bubble?
Yeah, they are definitely on the straight and narrow, I will tell you that much. And that is the reason we know that our regulatory system is beyond broken. Goldman probably put up the loan for the deal and maneuvered it all into place, because naturally their advisory services are in synergy with their other products.
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#95Came over to HN for answers to this WTF. But even here we have none.
AV is snake oil. What do Intel have in mind?
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We're talking about $7.7 billion . I'm not sure it's quite as rosy a picture as you paint. I'm not that familiar with McAfee's annual profits, but even if they make $500 million a year, we can value the talent they cherry-pick at an absurdly high value of $1 billion, and it would still take Intel well over 10 years to recoup the investment, assuming stable revenue streams.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870447610457543... Intel's stock only took a small dip, and it looks like some of those who left were shifting it to McAfee to ride the wave as the stock went up. That's a lot of investors in an otherwise volatile market not jumping ship, so they must see something good in the deal that we're missing.
Small dip??? Intel lost $3.5 billion in market cap on the news. McAfee gained $2.6 billion.
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#97It's always interesting to see the business press scratch its head after baffling acquisitions like this and try to spin a coherent explanation of how the two companies fit together. The same thing happened when eBay bought Skype, but wishing didn't make that deal logical either.
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#98Why would they do this? It seemed obvious to me than in 5-10 years Antivirus software would be obsolete and unnecessary. I hear people every day recommending Windows 7 users get Microsoft Security Essentials and nothing else. And personally I run Ubuntu, so I haven't thought about antivirus software in years... This seems like a very odd decision to me. Intel, a world leader in processor design, does not need to get…
I'm definitely biased as a MS employee, but I can't underscore enough MSE as an Antivirus solution - it's the least annoying AV on the market and has the least perf impact on your system. Literally, you install it and it only bothers you when it absolutely has to.
can you convince my workplace to dump Symantec and start using MSE?
Re: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.7 Billion
#99Why would they do this? It seemed obvious to me than in 5-10 years Antivirus software would be obsolete and unnecessary. I hear people every day recommending Windows 7 users get Microsoft Security Essentials and nothing else. And personally I run Ubuntu, so I haven't thought about antivirus software in years... This seems like a very odd decision to me. Intel, a world leader in processor design, does not need to get…
I work at a small antivirus company. I'd be interested in knowing how helping people whose computers are infected get them uninfected is a "sleazy business".
Last week I spent two solid days rebuilding from scratch my mom's PC from it's OEM Windows XP Home installation after some hostage type malware managed to defeat it's not quite state of the art defenses (e.g. AVG). You aren't doing anything sleazy at all assuming your stuff is really good (that includes your not working for AVG :-).
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Not necessarily - I think it has the potential to be a very good move for Intel. I thought about my last post more, and I can think of a few applications where it could give Intel some huge advantages. Something that came to mind: We all agree that AV software eats CPU cycles. What's to say Intel can't just start putting custom hardware that is designed solely to offload signature checking onto a separate chip? With…
No thank you! AV software is not security, it's a stopgap measure for when you have to "do something" but are too lazy to implement real security measures. And McAfee is one of the lowest quality AV vendors out there (remember when they pushed out a definition update that made XP instances unbootable? that costs a lot of people a lot of headache, and millions of dollars).
It isn't software at that point as you would normally think of it - it would be a dedicated hardware piece that simply cross-references signatures with a known detection library and reports to the Intel chip.
And you think end users have any grasp of how to implement "real" security measures? Oh hell no. Joe Schmoe at XYZ web design corp is inevitably gonna download that porn at work and get some worm.