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The thing about software is that you don't have to be physically near the markets you serve. Writing software in Miami would provide zero advantage for serving this market.

The thing about Amazon is that they do a hell of a lot more than just write software.

But they need logistics centers in those areas, NOT a headquarters.

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I'm not even sure how Boston wound up in the running. I love the city, but it's experiencing a biotech boom and already has crazy expensive real estate, issues with crowding/traffic, all that jazz. The city would HATE it, even more than Seattle did. And let me tell you, the ostracization in Seattle is extremely painful. I don't think it would turn out to be a good working environment. I guess it has a lot of educatio…

The plot of land they are offering in Boston is Suffolk downs. So its outside of Boston proper, has a ton of space, is right on the T, and has easy access to Logan airport. Plus its proximity to schools you pointed out and its tech scene make it appealing. I actually think Boston has a decent chance, along with Denver, Atlanta, and DC.

Huh, cool - I don't know much about their bid, so I guess I was sort of talking out my ass.

I still probably wouldn't move back if they got it, having experienced and possibly been broken by Seattle. But...I dunno, it'd probably be a net good for the area, so good luck to them.

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Same metro area.. totally different politics, rules, and regulations.

And there you have it. Northern Virginia will win this hands down if it's up against neighboring Montgomery County (which is where I live). Northern VA wins in infrastructure, existing tech culture, housing, and transportation options. But, the primary reason is that Montgomery County politics will never bend to accommodate Amazon in a competitive situation like this, and it's been that way for 30 years.

I live in Rockville, MD and I couldn't agree more with the county politics.

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Three candidate cities are in the same metro area (DC). * Montgomery county, MD * Northern Virginia * Washington DC

I think this is politically smart and that one of these 3 will end up being the winner. The current US administration is very anti amazon. It is a little tougher for politicians and staff to publicly bash a company when 50k of their employees live and work in the same zip code.

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Nice to see Toronto on the list, though game theory suggest that we're only here because having a Canadian Candidate has the potential to have all 3 levels of government involved rather than just state and city. I'm not really sure how to go about handicapping the finalists. Given the current political climate, Toronto is interesting because it's the only city that gives Amazon some escape form the US government. You…

Give your requirements, Newark would be the best candidate

- EWR close by, with public transportation connections

- Strong local universities, both in tech and business (Rutgers, NJIT, Stevens)

- Newark development is rising, downtown is still relatively sparse

- Audible is already in Newark

Skeptical it will actually happen though. Wouldn't even consider myself a fan of Newark (even though I go to school here), but it's interesting that it's the smallest city on the list population wise.

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My guess is that Amazon isn't _seriously_ considering all 20 cities equally. Instead, they privately already have 2 or 3 particular cities in mind and the other 18 cities are just there for negotiating leverage for the 2 they really want. The problem is that the cities themselves don't know if they're "really in contention" or just "disposable chess pieces". Again, that's just my guess.

Yeah, there's funny concentration of options right by - and including - Washington D.C.

Theres 3 different local / state governments to entice competition from with that setup, and montgomery county just lost Discovery which was a huge employer who they were wooing with a serious comp package. So you throw a spender like that into a competitive situation and you might get some insane offer.

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After reading these comments it makes me realize just how limiting transportation is and how big of a drag it is. Austin/Boston/DC/Atlanta/Denver/others are all great locations with transportation issues. Even some of the more rural locations such as RDU would quickly fill up with 50k new tech workers join the existing the two-lane highways. It seems like the best solution currently is the Apple/Google wifi buse with…

It's too bad they dropped the Detroit area off the list. Hardly any traffic compared to these other cities. Fantastic airport with many direct flights to Europe and Asia. I am kind of glad though. We don't need the stress on our infrastructure or the rapid rise in real estate and salaries Amazon will bring.

Re: Amazon announces candidate cities for HQ2

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I was hoping the Twin cities would get a nod. Maybe it could still happen if Amazon buys Target. Denver makes a lot of sense. It's a nice place for executives to live, not far from ski resorts which makes the winter bearable. Los Angeles would be great too but traffic is a nightmare. It might make sense for them to be close to Hollywood as well. You'd want to be in the South bay since anyone with money will want to live near the beach.

Re: Amazon announces candidate cities for HQ2

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I'm not even sure how Boston wound up in the running. I love the city, but it's experiencing a biotech boom and already has crazy expensive real estate, issues with crowding/traffic, all that jazz. The city would HATE it, even more than Seattle did. And let me tell you, the ostracization in Seattle is extremely painful. I don't think it would turn out to be a good working environment. I guess it has a lot of educatio…

The plot of land they are offering in Boston is Suffolk downs. So its outside of Boston proper, has a ton of space, is right on the T, and has easy access to Logan airport. Plus its proximity to schools you pointed out and its tech scene make it appealing. I actually think Boston has a decent chance, along with Denver, Atlanta, and DC.

Ah right. I don't live in the city so I hadn't really kept up with developments after the bid for a casino location there was rejected a few years ago. Presumably, if that was a legitimate bid at least someone thought you could move a lot of people in and out of the area. Traffic still isn't great around there but, yeah, you're right on the Blue Line (which is... OK I guess) and you're practically next door to the airport.

If it happened, good luck if you've been living in East Boston because it's relatively cheap, albeit somewhat gentrifying.

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