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'Text bomb' is latest Apple bug

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Re: 'Text bomb' is latest Apple bug

#12

The linked blog assures people that this can't be used to access data. Once something is crashing an app/OS, can you really say that? I mean, can you be sure there's no one clever enough to capitalize on the underlying software error leading to this state?

Don’t know any details about this one, but some bugs are just not exploitable beyond denial of service. If all you can do is provoke an action that makes the OS kill the process immediately, for example. Like a null pointer dereference under the right circumstances.

Re: 'Text bomb' is latest Apple bug

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://mega.nz/#!X4piUYwA!zXH1vCliaO00V2v2554vegCnXzQ69jdAX... 11.7MB HTML file. It crashes the tab in Chrome 65.0.3324.2 64-bit and locks up Firefox 58.0 64-bit on Windows for me.

Works on my ff 58.0b16 win10 64bit

I tried to repeat the test in FF and you're right, it does not lock it up, but once I click in the black area of the page, it becomes unresponsive.

Re: 'Text bomb' is latest Apple bug

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Based on a web search, https://bogdanz.me/work/diddu.html might be a working mirror of the proof of concept. It appears to contain a 10MB long UTF-8 mess in both the og:title meta content and in a mailto: link. I'd guess it's supposed to crash iOS apps by either posting that link if it displays links in a thumbnail element using og:title or otherwise by pasting the huge mailto link contained in the webpage, or perhap…

Could someone just use some sort of fuzzing software to generate these?

Just keep trying many until one hits.

Re: 'Text bomb' is latest Apple bug

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post #5

Based on a web search, https://bogdanz.me/work/diddu.html might be a working mirror of the proof of concept. It appears to contain a 10MB long UTF-8 mess in both the og:title meta content and in a mailto: link. I'd guess it's supposed to crash iOS apps by either posting that link if it displays links in a thumbnail element using og:title or otherwise by pasting the huge mailto link contained in the webpage, or perhap…

Could someone just use some sort of fuzzing software to generate these? Just keep trying many until one hits.

You can, but the number of possible inputs is huge and fuzzing won't prove that no such input exists.

Re: 'Text bomb' is latest Apple bug

#16

The linked blog assures people that this can't be used to access data. Once something is crashing an app/OS, can you really say that? I mean, can you be sure there's no one clever enough to capitalize on the underlying software error leading to this state?

That would be a general issue with app crashing, and a huge deal worth it’s own series of articles. iOS’ sandboxing makes it so unlikely this exists, it’s not worth mentioning and the sensational writing might be counterproductive to getting the actual issue fixed. To use an analogy, it’d be like mentioning that someone could hack Google in an article about Gmail downtime.

Re: 'Text bomb' is latest Apple bug

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post #12

The linked blog assures people that this can't be used to access data. Once something is crashing an app/OS, can you really say that? I mean, can you be sure there's no one clever enough to capitalize on the underlying software error leading to this state?

Don’t know any details about this one, but some bugs are just not exploitable beyond denial of service. If all you can do is provoke an action that makes the OS kill the process immediately, for example. Like a null pointer dereference under the right circumstances.

That's kind of what I was thinking, but it sounds like you or I know about as much about the cause of the bug as the person offering assurances.
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