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Re: Amazon announces candidate cities for HQ2

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Post by codeonfire »

freehunter wrote: post #72
codeonfire wrote: post #58

HQ2 will not work. Amazon grew in Seattle because of its access to H1B labor from Asia, liberalism, and attitudes towards business and work. Much of the rest of the country is North Korea business-wise. There is no way Seattle management will allow half the revenue to flow to another office. I'm sure the board thinks the two HQ's will compete, producing incredible productivity. Workers compete, management destroys. T…

Yep, it's completely impossible for businesses to exist outside of Seattle, which is why the rest of the country is such a desolate wasteland of economic strife.

It is a desolate wasteland of economic strife. Why do you think 240 cities threw billions at Amazon? The culture has to be replicated, which most of America is not willing to do.

Re: Amazon announces candidate cities for HQ2

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Post by melling »

mholmes680 wrote: post #54
chollida1 wrote: post #3

Nice to see Toronto on the list, though game theory suggest that we're only here because having a Canadian Candidate has the potential to have all 3 levels of government involved rather than just state and city. I'm not really sure how to go about handicapping the finalists. Given the current political climate, Toronto is interesting because it's the only city that gives Amazon some escape form the US government. You…

I think Newark set the bar on the financial discounts: $7B [1] so far, but we just changed Governors, so we'll see. I think it meets all the other requirements you mentioned, but I think we got knocked on Infrastructure on some list a month or two ago. [1] http://www.nj.com/essex/index.ssf/2017/12/10_reasons_for_ama...

Maybe they can finish the PATH connection to the airport. 2.4 miles:

http://www.nj.com/essex/index.ssf/2017/12/a_timeline_chartin...

Re: Amazon announces candidate cities for HQ2

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Post by planteen »

indescions_2018 wrote: post #75

Just visited Pittsburgh. There is indeed a renaissance happing in that town. The restaurant scene alone is phenomenal. And the addition of a FANG level HQ could cement its burgeoning international reputation as a destination. The idea is that CMU spits out about 200+ world class CS grads a year. If even 5% decide to stay in the area to start their own ventures. There would be potential for massive growth. the other d…

Denver isn't gaining 10K people a day - that would be insane!

This article says 13K people in a year to Denver city & county: https://www.denverpost.com/2017/03/28/denvers-growth-spurt-s...

It looks like Colorado's population is around 5.7 million with an annual growth rate of 1.4% - so about 80K people per year for the state.

http://worldpopulationreview.com/states/colorado-population/

Re: Amazon announces candidate cities for HQ2

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Post by ghaff »

Grasshoppeh wrote: post #82
robbiemitchell wrote: post #43

NYT walked through a process of elimination and concluded it will be Denver. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/09/09/upshot/where-...

Interesting, I would have still guessed Massachusetts due to the education system. If there goal is to make high paying jobs an educated population makes it much easier to find talent.

Amazon is already building a pretty big facility (about 5K employees as I recall). The upside is certainly the universities and the fact that Massachusetts is already a significant tech hub, albeit in a somewhat different vein from Silicon Valley. The downside is land and CoL in the city is very expensive and traffic/transit congestion is already pretty bad.

Re: Amazon announces candidate cities for HQ2

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Post by rmrfrmrf »

_m8fo wrote: post #81
rmrfrmrf wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are these dev jobs? If so, time zone coverage = less hours on call

Are what dev jobs? HQ2 should have a pretty large mix of roles, similar to HQ1.

Rephrased: will this new HQ be hiring primarily developers? I’m not familiar with HQ1.

Re: Amazon announces candidate cities for HQ2

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Post by corpMaverick »

empath75 wrote: post #25

If it doesn’t end up somewhere on the silver line in northern Virginia, I’ll eat my hat. Plenty of housing, transit straight to the city or an international airport, convenient access to the nations capital for lobbying, in the middle of us-east-1, a large population of tech workers, lots of local universities, right in the middle of the east coast...

TIL about the Silver Line. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Line_(Washington_Metro)

Re: Amazon announces candidate cities for HQ2

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Post by freehunter »

codeonfire wrote: post #101
freehunter wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, it's completely impossible for businesses to exist outside of Seattle, which is why the rest of the country is such a desolate wasteland of economic strife.

It is a desolate wasteland of economic strife. Why do you think 240 cities threw billions at Amazon? The culture has to be replicated, which most of America is not willing to do.

All those poor, broke cities like New York, Chicago, Denver, Miami, Pittsburgh, Austin, Los Angeles, man they look to Seattle like a shining beacon of economic prosperity and liberal ideas.

If only New York had the kind of money that Seattle does, then things would be different.

Re: Amazon announces candidate cities for HQ2

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Post by _m8fo »

rmrfrmrf wrote: post #105
_m8fo wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are what dev jobs? HQ2 should have a pretty large mix of roles, similar to HQ1.

Rephrased: will this new HQ be hiring primarily developers? I’m not familiar with HQ1.

My understanding is that it's literally another HQ. So they'd be hiring all roles -- developers, marketing professionals, sales, etc.

Re: Amazon announces candidate cities for HQ2

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Post by rb808 »

onychomys wrote: post #24

I'm surprised to see Miami make the list, since they're going to have so much work to do over the next 50 years to deal with rising sea levels. I'm not at all sure that the city will still exist in its modern form in 2050, and surely Amazon is planning that far out too.

Miami I think is going to have a big future. At current growth rates it will be #6 biggest city by population, still cheap, nice quality of life. Also as far away as you can get from Seattle in every way, so probably not a great pick for HQ2, but we'll hear more from this city I think.
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