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Re: Amazon announces candidate cities for HQ2

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My money is on Vriginia particularly Loudoun county. Amazon AWS data centers are already there. Many other data center vendors are moving in hords. Land is cheap and in abundance there. VA allows easy access to eastern and southern states. People who want to work for Amazon would move eventually. Major metro-city is not going to happen.

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Re: Amazon announces candidate cities for HQ2

#72

HQ2 will not work. Amazon grew in Seattle because of its access to H1B labor from Asia, liberalism, and attitudes towards business and work. Much of the rest of the country is North Korea business-wise. There is no way Seattle management will allow half the revenue to flow to another office. I'm sure the board thinks the two HQ's will compete, producing incredible productivity. Workers compete, management destroys. T…

Yep, it's completely impossible for businesses to exist outside of Seattle, which is why the rest of the country is such a desolate wasteland of economic strife.

Re: Amazon announces candidate cities for HQ2

#73
Atlanta is right in the middle of many of the world's flight paths (there's a city outside the airport!), has lots of fiber, and the state already showed a willingness to work at all levels to get a big, logistics-dependent business with the Caterpillar plant. The latter point is probably the most important.

Re: Amazon announces candidate cities for HQ2

#74

What's the point of announcing your candidate cities? Seems like it's only there so that the two or three cities they're really considering have to throw loads of tax breaks at them.

So the leadership in all the cities falls over themselves to bend over the most for Amazon? Amazon will play them off each other use the offers to leverage the city or cities they "really" want.

I think folks are expecting too much from Amazon.

The cities are hoping for an influx of taxpayers with big incomes, but what will really happen is that Amazon will simply build a campus, the bulk of the "tech workers" will live in a wide swath of exburbs around the city. The commuters will stress the transportation infrastructure of the city and the "tax breaks" will greatly limit the actual benefits the cities see.

Of course even that is contingent on the whims of Amazon. They're soliciting solemn proposals that fork over a lot of benefits and promises. Whereas on the Amazon side, they could change their minds before even building the facility-- or just build a much smaller facility, or build several much much smaller facilities in several cities, all of which leverage the "highest bidder" benefits.

I don't believe them and I don't believe the "50000" jobs number. It is too round a number that seems like it was dreamed up by a PR goon. And what is the point of an HQ2 anyway? Isn't ONE HQ enough? How many HQ's does a company need in one country?

Re: Amazon announces candidate cities for HQ2

#75
Just visited Pittsburgh. There is indeed a renaissance happing in that town. The restaurant scene alone is phenomenal. And the addition of a FANG level HQ could cement its burgeoning international reputation as a destination.

The idea is that CMU spits out about 200+ world class CS grads a year. If even 5% decide to stay in the area to start their own ventures. There would be potential for massive growth.

the other data points that shocked me is that the population of Greater Austin, Texas is now 2.5M souls! I still think of it as a sleepy southern college town like Athens, GA ;) And that Denver is experiencing a net influx of 10K people per day!

Re: Amazon announces candidate cities for HQ2

#76
post #50

I feel as though there are too many cities. I'd be curious to know what the top 5 are. My picks, in no particular order: - Boston - Dallas - Atlanta - Chicago - Denver In all likelihood it'll be Boston or Denver.

Are these dev jobs? If so, time zone coverage = less hours on call

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#78
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I'm so glad Kansas City wasted all that time pandering [1] to them. I bet Sly really thought he'd make a dent. Absolutely not surprised though. Oh well, same old same old. Look at all the dots on the edges. [1] http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/article180878701.htm...

Oooh... the cringe is strong. (EDIT: this refers to Mayor Sly's actions in your link, not to your comment!) Realistically, KC doesn't have an international airport. It's a fine national airport, because it's easy to get close to your gate really quickly, and there's a pretty complete set of connections to the West and many parts of the East. To fly internationally, however, requires a layover at O'Hare. One doesn't see KC competing for something like this without being a bit more connected to the world.

Re: Amazon announces candidate cities for HQ2

#80

HQ2 will not work. Amazon grew in Seattle because of its access to H1B labor from Asia, liberalism, and attitudes towards business and work. Much of the rest of the country is North Korea business-wise. There is no way Seattle management will allow half the revenue to flow to another office. I'm sure the board thinks the two HQ's will compete, producing incredible productivity. Workers compete, management destroys. T…

Yep, it's completely impossible for businesses to exist outside of Seattle, which is why the rest of the country is such a desolate wasteland of economic strife.

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