> as long as they pay those workers at least the minimum wage Do US employeers not have to pay workers the minimum wage?
https://www.dol.gov/whd/state/tipped.htm Employers do not directly have to pay employees the minimum wage if the tips earned from the work add up to the minimum wage.
Women would lose $4.6B in earned tips if ‘tip stealing’ rule is finalized
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Re: Women would lose $4.6B in earned tips if ‘tip stealing’ rule is finalized
#72There have been a number of studies that found that attractive people, especially attractive women, receive bigger tips from customers than other groups [1][2] in some contexts. The implications of this are perhaps just as interesting as women being the primary group disadvantaged by this proposed policy simply due to there being a higher proportion of women than men in tip-receiving jobs. One could argue that if thi…
Re: Women would lose $4.6B in earned tips if ‘tip stealing’ rule is finalized
#73I hate tipping culture. When I was young and a waitress in college, I noticed horrible racism from waiters who treated minorities badly due to tipping stereotypes. Please just get rid of it for living wages.
Have you been in countries without tipping culture? Almost all of them have much worse service quality.
The idea that you are entitled to excellent service because you are paying is pernicious. If you want excellent service, treat people excellently.
Re: Women would lose $4.6B in earned tips if ‘tip stealing’ rule is finalized
#74There have been a number of studies that found that attractive people, especially attractive women, receive bigger tips from customers than other groups [1][2] in some contexts. The implications of this are perhaps just as interesting as women being the primary group disadvantaged by this proposed policy simply due to there being a higher proportion of women than men in tip-receiving jobs. One could argue that if thi…
Re: Women would lose $4.6B in earned tips if ‘tip stealing’ rule is finalized
#75I hate tipping culture. When I was young and a waitress in college, I noticed horrible racism from waiters who treated minorities badly due to tipping stereotypes. Please just get rid of it for living wages.
Have you been in countries without tipping culture? Almost all of them have much worse service quality.
Even if it were true cultural expectations would be the major deciding factor of how employees act.
Re: Women would lose $4.6B in earned tips if ‘tip stealing’ rule is finalized
#76I hate tipping culture. When I was young and a waitress in college, I noticed horrible racism from waiters who treated minorities badly due to tipping stereotypes. Please just get rid of it for living wages.
Have you been in countries without tipping culture? Almost all of them have much worse service quality.
Re: Women would lose $4.6B in earned tips if ‘tip stealing’ rule is finalized
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
Have you been in countries without tipping culture? Almost all of them have much worse service quality.
I lived in France for a year before moving to the US. Even though French waiters are notorious for having terrible service, I always received excellent service by being very polite to the waiters. The idea that you are entitled to excellent service because you are paying is pernicious. If you want excellent service, treat people excellently.
Literally the only thing you are paying for is service (the services of cooking and waiting on you), otherwise you'd be eating at home.
Re: Women would lose $4.6B in earned tips if ‘tip stealing’ rule is finalized
#78There have been a number of studies that found that attractive people, especially attractive women, receive bigger tips from customers than other groups [1][2] in some contexts. The implications of this are perhaps just as interesting as women being the primary group disadvantaged by this proposed policy simply due to there being a higher proportion of women than men in tip-receiving jobs. One could argue that if thi…
Re: Women would lose $4.6B in earned tips if ‘tip stealing’ rule is finalized
#79"DOL has masked the fact that this rule would be a windfall to restaurant owners and other employers—out of the pockets of tipped workers—by making it sound as if this rule is about tip pooling." Sounds like this one must've been written by lobbyists? Assuming this article is accurate, why would this seem like a good rule to get rid of?
Here's an idea -- why don't we let business owners decide how to pay their people? If waiters don't like tip pooling, then they can work for another restaurant that doesn't do it. It's ridiculous that the government even gets involved in this -- assuming minimum wage is met and taxes are being properly paid -- what business is it of the government how restaurants operate (beyond health and safety obviously.) Does the…
We are talking about owners being legally allowed to pocket money that was given directly to their employees to keep. How can you possibly think actual theft is a "free market" issue?
Re: Women would lose $4.6B in earned tips if ‘tip stealing’ rule is finalized
#80So how, as a customer, could I actively tip my wait staff and not the establishment? Will this lead to the abolishment of tipping in general?
No idea if this actually works legally, or logistically, but its an option