Firefox’s new streaming and tiering compiler

Post by krapp » Wed, Jan 17, 2018, 11:46 PM UTC

solidr53 wrote: post #133

noir_lord wrote: post #111

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Which ironically isn't really any faster than PHP7 in the real world outside of benchmarks. 7 was a phenomenal release, I saw 50% reductions in processing time across the board and on old array heavy systems 5-10x memory reduction.

Thanks to pressure from HHVM I assume. Nothing was happening in the PHP language for freaking three years. To be fair the benchmarks usually take a wordpress or drupal installation and do a requests per second measurement, which IMO is a real world benchmark. No hate, I just don't get why hhvm doesn't get any love for what they did. Maybe because from HPHPc to HHVM they seriously gave the PHPc a competition and peopl…

Post by littlestymaar » Wed, Jan 17, 2018, 11:54 PM UTC

Dolores12 wrote: post #139

Guess what, downloading compiled executable code is even faster. Is that where we are heading to? Flash 2.0? Wouldn't it be great to save all the electric power that was used to compile very same code on millions of computers every day?

Post by eyko » Thu, Jan 18, 2018, 12:13 AM UTC

flavio81 wrote: post #51

sjrd wrote: post #5

Nice article. Although, as always with articles on WebAssembly, it keeps repeating that wasm is faster than JavaScript, without ever mentioning the limitations of wasm wrt. JS (no GC, no interaction with the DOM or with JS libraries besides numbers, etc.). And that means there are zillions of developers who keep being misled in thinking stuff like "Why don't you compile to wasm to make your stuff faster?". That inclu…

>JavaScript, without ever mentioning the limitations of wasm wrt. JS (no GC, no interaction with the DOM or with JS libraries besides numbers, etc.). DOM will die as soon as the industry moves to one or two good GUI toolkits that run under Webassembly and are way faster to use than the cumbersome present combination of HTML+CSS+CSS preprocessor+JS libs. Mark my words.

Post by rmrfrmrf » Thu, Jan 18, 2018, 12:47 AM UTC

white-flame wrote: post #35

stevemk14ebr wrote: post #12

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I don't think that's absurd at all. WebASM really should be the ASM of the web, everything should be compiled to it. A little pre-compilation of JS to WebASM makes sense to me

As far as not making sense goes, sorry but your post doesn't make any to me, either. Why would we possibly return to a manual memory management, raw pointer oriented, assembly language level of abstraction from the much richer and safer abstraction that JS already has? Wasm doesn't even have any notion of Characters or Strings! You really want to return to the days of each project having their own String libraries, b…

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jan 18, 2018, 12:51 AM UTC

krapp wrote: post #141

solidr53 wrote: post #133

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Thanks to pressure from HHVM I assume. Nothing was happening in the PHP language for freaking three years. To be fair the benchmarks usually take a wordpress or drupal installation and do a requests per second measurement, which IMO is a real world benchmark. No hate, I just don't get why hhvm doesn't get any love for what they did. Maybe because from HPHPc to HHVM they seriously gave the PHPc a competition and peopl…

>No hate, I just don't get why hhvm doesn't get any love for what they did. I don't know - I expected to see a ton of Hack projects show up here but it's like no one cared about the language except as a wake-up call to PHP. Maybe the involvement of Facebook put people off.