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Apple plans new U.S. campus, to pay $38B in foreign cash taxes

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I find it fascinating that a tax plan proposed by a President reviled throughout the Valley is the one thing that finally convinced Apple to repatriate much of its overseas cash and invest it here in the US. They of course give no credit to him in this press release, but the proof is in the pudding. Of the many heavy handed ideas and efforts made by the previous administration to convince Apple to do this, exactly 0…

This might be the most brilliant tax plan in the universe. The president wouldn’t be any less revolting because of that. I’m not sure why you are connecting these two ideas.

It is true that the partisan extremism of everything leads to people irrationally hating everything someone does (or, as in this case, is loosely associated with), but that doesn’t mean the opposite.

This does not and should not wash this revolting presidency clean.

Re: Apple plans new U.S. campus, to pay $38B in foreign cash taxes

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post #88

I find it fascinating that a tax plan proposed by a President reviled throughout the Valley is the one thing that finally convinced Apple to repatriate much of its overseas cash and invest it here in the US. They of course give no credit to him in this press release, but the proof is in the pudding. Of the many heavy handed ideas and efforts made by the previous administration to convince Apple to do this, exactly 0…

> a tax plan proposed by a President The corporate tax changes weren't his idea - they have been kicking around Capitol Hill with more or less bipartisan support for years, and it almost happened while Obama was president. The full package of changes wound up being highly politicized and controversial, but the corporate changes were always seen as very likely to pass sooner or later.

He was pretty much the only finalist candidate that proposed cutting taxes, and not just by a bit, Trump by his nature wanted the greatest change

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$1,000 is not laughable to most people.

If you're talking about Walmart, they announced a one-time bonus of up to $1,000. Walmart estimates that it will cost about $400 million [1], and they employ 2.3 million people [2], so the average bonus is under $200. Meanwhile Walmart will save about $1.8 billion a year in taxes, every year, thanks to the tax cut. [1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-11/wal-mart-... [2] https://www.google.be/search?q=…

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Re: Apple plans new U.S. campus, to pay $38B in foreign cash taxes

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It's very telling that most of the announcements of benefits to workers purportedly attributable to the tax cuts are in the form of one-time bonuses. The corporate tax cuts are ongoing; the bonuses to workers are one-time. These are nothing more than PR moves. Moreover, the headlines are misleading in some cases; for example, Walmart's touted "$1,000 bonus" was actually $200-$1,000 depending on years of service. Only…

> These are nothing more than PR moves. They’re certainly good for PR, and perhaps that’s the primary intention, but employees are benefitting from it.

Sure, but throwing large amounts of tax breaks at corporations in the hopes that a few scraps will trickle down to workers as PR efforts is inefficient. There are much more efficient ways of achieving even better outcomes for workers.

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I'd like to know who those 9,000 American suppliers and manufacturers are. Other than Corning who supplies the Gorilla Glasses for almost all smartphone makers, I can't really name any significant domestic suppliers who would make up $55B of their "spending."

They don't mention if they are counting software vendors in this list as well. If so, it's pretty easy to hit that number. An employee wants a license for a drawing app? That company is now a "supplier".

Re: Apple plans new U.S. campus, to pay $38B in foreign cash taxes

#116

I find it fascinating that a tax plan proposed by a President reviled throughout the Valley is the one thing that finally convinced Apple to repatriate much of its overseas cash and invest it here in the US. They of course give no credit to him in this press release, but the proof is in the pudding. Of the many heavy handed ideas and efforts made by the previous administration to convince Apple to do this, exactly 0…

The $1B Reno datacenter expansion was announced in May of 2017. So it has nothing to do with cash repatriation really.

http://www.rgj.com/story/news/2017/05/10/breaking-apple-anno...

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https://thinkprogress.org/walmart-fires-thousands-after-bonu...

This is #fakenews. Walmart did not fire employees, Sam's club a separately owned subsidiary did, mainly because the Sam's club business is not doing well and had to make hard decisions. It is widely accepted that Walmart had no idea Sam's club was going to do the round of layoffs when they announced their wage increase and bonuses. Also, thinkprogress really should not be cited as a source of quality unbiased news.

> It is widely accepted that Walmart had no idea Sam's club was going to do the round of layoffs when they announced their wage increase and bonuses.

Any source for that assertion?

Re: Apple plans new U.S. campus, to pay $38B in foreign cash taxes

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post #111

I find it fascinating that a tax plan proposed by a President reviled throughout the Valley is the one thing that finally convinced Apple to repatriate much of its overseas cash and invest it here in the US. They of course give no credit to him in this press release, but the proof is in the pudding. Of the many heavy handed ideas and efforts made by the previous administration to convince Apple to do this, exactly 0…

This might be the most brilliant tax plan in the universe. The president wouldn’t be any less revolting because of that. I’m not sure why you are connecting these two ideas. It is true that the partisan extremism of everything leads to people irrationally hating everything someone does (or, as in this case, is loosely associated with), but that doesn’t mean the opposite. This does not and should not wash this revolti…

Amen!

Re: Apple plans new U.S. campus, to pay $38B in foreign cash taxes

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Unfortunately, that article is clear as mud and seems to use the word “mandatory” in its headline as editorialized clickbait. In its explanation: “[The plan] uses the mechanics under subpart F to impose a one-time ‘toll charge’ on the undistributed, non-previously taxed post-1986 foreign E&P of certain US-owned foreign corporations as part of the transition to a new territorial regime. The toll charge is reduced by a…

I'm not sure why you think a big 4 accounting firm would need to do clickbait, but that's beside the point. Whether Apple left the cash in Ireland or brought it back to the US, they would have paid $38B in taxes. That's the mandatory part. That's what the quoted text literally says. And since you seem to be unaware, the vast majority of Apple's cash has already been in the US for years, invested in US treasuries and…

The point is that the tax is mandatory, not the repatriation. If they didn’t believe that the US was the best place to put that money, they could have paid the tax and left it there or moved it elsewhere. The fact that they are deploying that capital here indicates some level of belief that the American economy will thrive under this tax plan.
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