Earlier quoted context omitted.
Reminds me of the CHDK hackers trying to dump firmware off a Canon camera. They could get the altered firmware to activate and could read memory and control an LED, so... they blinked the firmware out through the LED, and read it with a ball mouse's optical sensor attached to a microphone cord. :-)
I half-remember reading that someone dumped the firmware of an older iPod by listening to hard disk noises. Thinking back this doesn't make much sense. EDIT: I was maybe ⅓ right https://web.archive.org/web/20070613032334/http://www.ipodli...
System Bus Radio: Transmits AM radio on computers without transmitting hardware
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Re: System Bus Radio: Transmits AM radio on computers without transmitting hardware
#82Re: System Bus Radio: Transmits AM radio on computers without transmitting hardware
#83In a far less sophisticated way, I was able to achieve audio transmission without any extra hardware except for a ~6 foot aux audio cable. This was back when I was maybe 14 years old and I was already building RF circuits with crystal oscillators and such. Learning that audio is sampled at specific frequencies, I was then lead to wonder if the same principles used to send and receive audio through proximal electromagnetism(since electrical current generate fields). While this is obvious to any adult with basic knowledge of science, it was quite novel for me to discover that my boom box radio, when set to auxiliary mode, could slightly pick up audio passing through an open-ended cable from my sound card. What I really didn't expect was that by upping the volume further, I could send a clear signal across several feet. Clearly, this wasn't just the force of magnetism but there was some radio activity happening. I never figured out what was going on, although I hypothesized that the transistors in the microphone input hardware of the boom box were configured in a way that was behaving like a transistor radio.
I would love to understand what was really happening there.
Re: System Bus Radio: Transmits AM radio on computers without transmitting hardware
#84Re: System Bus Radio: Transmits AM radio on computers without transmitting hardware
#85Tangentially related: the singing Commodore 64 floppy drive. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5gnMgmlKi_o
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or they just went back to using simple CPUs, and were content with solving smaller problems.
I know this is in good-natured jest, but wouldn’t the arrival of widespread quantum computing, which need to be absolutely decoupled from their environment so as to prevent decoherence, actually be an enormous step forward in almost all these “side channel” attacks? In the sense that decoupling must by definition limit any exchange of information that might constitute ‘observation’, and as such, the goings-on of a qu…
But if you were timesharing on a quantum machine (which, given that they need $1M microkelvin coolers seems like it will be common) it's not impossible that information could leak. Given the analog way they work, you could probably set up a computation that would be sufficiently sensitive to initial conditions that the not-entirely-decayed-to-zero previous computation could influence it.
Re: System Bus Radio: Transmits AM radio on computers without transmitting hardware
#87Re: System Bus Radio: Transmits AM radio on computers without transmitting hardware
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
'on the bus' is quite a bit different from '1 meter of drywall away' though...
Maxwells Law says a time varying electric field will radiate so maybe make sure people can't get near the computer.
Re: System Bus Radio: Transmits AM radio on computers without transmitting hardware
#89I don't understand it. What determines the carrier frequency of the computer? How does he change the amplitude of the signal?
Edit: I just saw lovelearning's explanation - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16168969
"In this case, the copper traces connecting CPU to RAM on that particular computer are emitting EM radiation at a frequency of 1580 kHz."
I think 1580kHz could just be one of the harmonics.
I'm curious what defines the carrier, if it's a factor of the length of copper on the memory bus, clock frequencies etc?
Re: System Bus Radio: Transmits AM radio on computers without transmitting hardware
#90badBIOS Sound: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/meet-...
Acoustical Mesh Network: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/12/scien...
DiskDrive Sound: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/08/new-a...
Survellance Cameras: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/09/attac...