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Re: Blocking via an Unsolvable CAPTCHA

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I was getting this quite regularly (can confirm that I'm not a robot). It would show the regular captcha asking you to identify traffic signs and stuff, but no matter what you do, it just wouldn't end. Good to know it was just Google deciding to ban my IP for some reason.

Re: Blocking via an Unsolvable CAPTCHA

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I thought this item would be related to that very popular item... I saw it mentioned in discussion. At work I just recently managed to trip it three times in one day, which I consider a record since in the past I've encountered it at most a few times a week. What's more infuriating is that my queries were far less complex than the ones that tripped it before (trying to find information about some API constants), basi…

> I am not a robot. I am not a competitor scraping your pages or doing anything else against your ToS. I am just an intelligent human with over two decades of Internet searching experience enthusiastically using your service for the exact purpose it claims to do: to find something on the Internet. Maybe it’s time to stop using Google and use another search engine which actually treat you like a human being, like Duck…

That's what I do whenever it comes up. For the longest time I used Google because they had the biggest index, but if they're not keen on letting people actually make use of it, then DDG and the others suddenly look a lot more appealing.

Re: Blocking via an Unsolvable CAPTCHA

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Not in my experience. It would give me “select cars until none are visible” and it would be replacing the last car by another one for a long time. Then, when there are finally none, it would just offer another captcha, such a as “click on storefronts until there are none”. And so on and on

Their mapping AI isn't going to train itself, and unlike the proofreading CAPTCHA, this one actually benefits Google's bottom line by providing free input for a proprietary data set. These Google CAPTCHA's are deployed all over the internet, but you mostly won't notice them until you use a VPN. When you do, you get them at what seems to be their strictest setting: multiple rounds of 'click the object that is a car/st…

That happens to me when browsing normally on my home Internet connection (no VPN). I think it's because Google thinks I'm a robot (I frequently don't even touch my mouse and check the CAPTCHA box using my keyboard, or just move my mouse cursor in a straight line to the CAPTCHA), so it appears we've entered an era where you're punished for being too efficient at using a Web browser.

Re: Blocking via an Unsolvable CAPTCHA

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This is vicious, fraudulent and should be illegal.

Lol why should it be illegal? It's your service, you can block however you want

False promises of a service behind an unsolvable puzzle.

That's criminal deception.

The services were never truly to offer, and you've wasted a persons time and energy.

What if a store kept out undesirable customers by giving them an unsolvable puzzle? There'd be lawsuits.

Re: Blocking via an Unsolvable CAPTCHA

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Lol why should it be illegal? It's your service, you can block however you want

False promises of a service behind an unsolvable puzzle. That's criminal deception. The services were never truly to offer, and you've wasted a persons time and energy. What if a store kept out undesirable customers by giving them an unsolvable puzzle? There'd be lawsuits.

Criminal? Not really. Usually in physical stores on private property 'management reserve the right to refuse admission' and they can do that any (legal) way they feel like, including stating that you can only gain admission once you have completed an impossible task, if that makes them happy.

Re: Blocking via an Unsolvable CAPTCHA

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I think most people don’t realize this “endless” CAPTCHA is actually an average of three iterations. You’re supposed to stop when you see no squares with X in them. That is, you should click submit even when there are zero squares matching the CAPTCHA criteria. Once you realize this it’s way less confusing, and in fact it even clearly states the instructions at the top of the CAPTCHA. But it’s super confusing and def…

Not in my experience. It would give me “select cars until none are visible” and it would be replacing the last car by another one for a long time. Then, when there are finally none, it would just offer another captcha, such a as “click on storefronts until there are none”. And so on and on

Same here. I'm starting to wonder if they're doing that on purpose to profile real users according to how fast they solve multiple captchas, say by measuring reaction times between every click on a "car", or to refine their anti bot algorithms by doing a deeper analysis of real user behavior. Whatever their intentions are, it's frustrating.

Re: Blocking via an Unsolvable CAPTCHA

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Getting a patent on pretty much anything is a relatively straightforward (if somewhat arduous) bureaucratic process. I got one on a device that lets you communicate faster than light: https://www.google.com/patents/US20030133714 Of course it doesn't actually work, but figuring out why makes an interesting exercise.

> Of course it doesn't actually work, but figuring out why makes an interesting exercise. I've always found that kind of interesting. The US lets you patent just about anything. But in my home country, Australia, one of the patent requirements is that it actually appears to function in the way you are claiming it does. ("The application must be for something patentable, like a practical adaption, not for an idea or p…

Theoretically it's a requirement in the U.S. as well. To get a patent, the invention has to be "useful", and presumably to be useful it has to work. But in practice this is never enforced.

Re: Blocking via an Unsolvable CAPTCHA

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That's literally what it takes to get something patented? For better or worse, maybe by patenting it, we won't see that solution used in many products from other companies. Hmm, maybe I should start thinking up annoying things that future software might do for profit, and patent them now to stop companies from doing them for a while.

Getting a patent on pretty much anything is a relatively straightforward (if somewhat arduous) bureaucratic process. I got one on a device that lets you communicate faster than light: https://www.google.com/patents/US20030133714 Of course it doesn't actually work, but figuring out why makes an interesting exercise.

That looks like a patent application, not a grant. You can't claim you have a patent on this yet.

Re: Blocking via an Unsolvable CAPTCHA

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Getting a patent on pretty much anything is a relatively straightforward (if somewhat arduous) bureaucratic process. I got one on a device that lets you communicate faster than light: https://www.google.com/patents/US20030133714 Of course it doesn't actually work, but figuring out why makes an interesting exercise.

That looks like a patent application, not a grant. You can't claim you have a patent on this yet.

I'm not sure why the application page rather than the grant page is the one turning up in Google's results, but the patent was granted. It is US Patent number 7,126.691, issued October 24, 2006.
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