Starting an ISP is hard (2016)
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Starting an ISP is hard (2016)
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#5Indeed, it sounds easier to start a bank. Probably more profitable also.
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#7This is obviously a response to an earlier post. This seems to happen a lot. Posts inspiring links, inspiring even more branches. It'd be interesting to apply one of those bioinformatics algorithms for computing the phylogenetic tree of DNA to the stream of links featured here on HN.
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#8All the issues he talks about are due to the fact that there is no real competition in the US and no infrastructure to support competition.
The way it works over here is that there is a (commercially owned) open fiber network which can be used by anyone who wants to, and prices are the same for everyone. This network owns the last mile fiber, a PoP in each neighbourhood and a City-PoP linked to the neighbourhood PoP's.
You want to start a small ISP with very little investment ? Just lease everything from one of the bigger players. Bandwidth, IPTV service, etc. can all just be repackaged and resold under your own brand name and you can work on getting a customer base. You could run this from your basement without buying a single piece of hardware.
Want to spend a little more ? Use your own backbone network and uplink to the internet, but lease all the last-mile stuff from one of the bigger ISP. Go ahead. Want to do everything yourself ? You can rent space in the PoP's and install your own equipment, all you'd need from a 3rd party is to lease the last mile dark fiber.
You can pretty much choose anything from just reselling an existing package to doing everything yourself except owning the physical fiber and PoP your equipment is placed in. IIRC the situation on DSL is similar.
My current ISP started out as one of those that pretty much resold existing packages and currently they are on the other end of the spectrum and run their entire network by themselves including spinning off their own TV provider that now sells IPTV services to other small ISP's.
Net result of all this: at my address I can choose between 13 ISP's on fiber alone.
How do you get to a situation like this ? Very simple. Make sure the government only issues permits for the installation of a broadband network if the network to be built is going to be open to everyone.
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#9Which is why I think its great that we have social movements such as Funk Feuer (https://www.funkfeuer.at) to look at today, point, and say "thank god for the kids!", keeping the original 'net spirit alive.
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#10This is obviously a response to an earlier post. This seems to happen a lot. Posts inspiring links, inspiring even more branches. It'd be interesting to apply one of those bioinformatics algorithms for computing the phylogenetic tree of DNA to the stream of links featured here on HN.