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Luna 1.0 Beta is out

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Re: Luna 1.0 Beta is out

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Post by cturner »

VladimirGolovin wrote: post #89
kustosz wrote: post #2

Hi, I'm one of Luna founders, I'll be happy to answer any questions! :)

I'm trying Luna under a non-admin account in Windows 10. I tried to install it for the first time and forgot to turn Avast antivirus off. It blocked tar2.exe execution, so I had to turn it off and reinstall. It downloaded and installed fine, but I can't figure out how to run it: there's no shortcut in Start menu. Does Luna create one, when installed normally?

Similar experience. I booted to windows to try it. No antivirus in play. Installer exits without explanation, cannot see anything to run.

Re: Luna 1.0 Beta is out

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Post by jlebrech »

this is the programming language for the touchscreen generation, every language until now was born from keyboard use. brillant.

I've wanted to see any language have an ast represented visually, then when you save changed to that visual representation it would save back to the original file format, this is very close to what I was thinking of.

Re: Luna 1.0 Beta is out

#93

Post by ChrisRR »

wdanilo wrote: post #35
moondoge wrote: post #24

Be aware, before downloading: This application will not run without providing an e-mail address. It also forces data collection. I will not use such software.

@moondoge, if you don't want to provide your mail, just write anything in this field, we do NOT validate it in any way. However, we would be very thankful if you provide your real mail address, so we can track how Luna is used and improve the experience. Every data we collect is described here: http://www.luna-lang.org/alpha-data.html . We try to collect only insensitive data, that tell us how Luna is used and how we…

Collecting insensitive data and wanting users' email addresses are two different things.

Re: Luna 1.0 Beta is out

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Post by bsaul »

wdanilo wrote: post #38
bsaul wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see really fast and hard to understand animations. What i mean is a 20 minute video demonstrating how to solve a real problem in the environment.

@bsaul, video tutorials are a very interesting idea. In the first release, however, we have incorporated few toy-projects and interactive tutorial, which guides you step by step inside the product. Do you think video tutorials are better to understand / follow than examples or interactive tutorials ?

I wasn't thinking of a tutorial, but a demo. it's a bit different. The purpose isn't to teach me how to use the tool, but to understand and see what it will look like and what i'll be able to do once / if i ever learn to use it properly.

Then maybe i'll install the software, then i'll go to the tutorials (in that order).

Re: Luna 1.0 Beta is out

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Post by piotrMocz »

brucephillips wrote: post #55

When, specifically, would I use this rather than conventional programming?

I find myself using Luna instead of Python (with Jupyter) when I want to process/visualize some data, quick’n’dirty. Seeing the data flow through my program helps me wrap my head around it quite quickly. And the built-in visualizations are nice :)

Re: Luna 1.0 Beta is out

#96

Post by piotrMocz »

singingboyo wrote: post #49

The 'Textual Luna' section mentions language interop/FFI. However, nothing I can find elsewhere mentions anything on it. I understand that it's 'coming soon', but what does 'soon' mean in this case? Not having anything for this is a fairly large omission, IMO.

We understand how important it is for Luna to be able to use Python (and JS) libraries and we will try to get to work on that asap. Please note, however, that the core Luna team is fairly small, so we have limited capacity (although I would like to make it my personal goal to create the Python ffi). That said, any community effort in this area is more than welcome, you can check the code on our github org: https://github.com/luna

Re: Luna 1.0 Beta is out

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Post by kobrad »

This thing is a nightmare to install and uninstall. The installer is 170 megs and downloads god knows what, there is no uninstall, and when you try to do it manually you see it spawned three or four processes without letting you know. This is incredibly amazingly malware like if you ask me

Re: Luna 1.0 Beta is out

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Post by kabes »

It's cool technology, but if I take a look at an example of a simple react todo list in a similar project like flowhub: https://app.flowhub.io/#project/c111454c9fd2f74d37d1e8a4e739...

This looks more complex, harder to reason about and harder to make than just writing the code. And it only gets worse as complexity increases. But of course I've got way more mileage writing code than doing this.

Re: Luna 1.0 Beta is out

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Post by samuell »

kobrad wrote: post #97

This thing is a nightmare to install and uninstall. The installer is 170 megs and downloads god knows what, there is no uninstall, and when you try to do it manually you see it spawned three or four processes without letting you know. This is incredibly amazingly malware like if you ask me

$ du -sh .luna/

671M .luna/

Pretty browseable directory, to be fair. But yeah, would be nice with some more clear indication of where the installation is going, from the installer. Now I found the location in this thread.

Re: Luna 1.0 Beta is out

#100

Post by samuell »

kabes wrote: post #98

It's cool technology, but if I take a look at an example of a simple react todo list in a similar project like flowhub: https://app.flowhub.io/#project/c111454c9fd2f74d37d1e8a4e739... This looks more complex, harder to reason about and harder to make than just writing the code. And it only gets worse as complexity increases. But of course I've got way more mileage writing code than doing this.

The link leads nowhere (seems login required, but even after login doesn't work). Link to screenshot instead?
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