I wonder if the fact they bundled adware/spyware in with their browser will affect this.
If you're talking about the Mr. Robot controversy, that wasn't spyware.
Mozilla Files Suit Against FCC to Protect Net Neutrality
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Re: Mozilla Files Suit Against FCC to Protect Net Neutrality
#12Why is the EFF not doing this instead of Mozilla ? Also I hope people still pursue municipal broadband, even with NN relying on faceless corporations seems like a bad idea.
Why Google/Netflix is not doing this instead of Mozilla?
Re: Mozilla Files Suit Against FCC to Protect Net Neutrality
#13This is great! Though I wonder if there’s anything more we can do than call our representative like the article suggests.
My rep sent a canned, formal-language-adorned "get stuffed" in response.
Mine replied with a canned response basically saying, "thanks for caring! Our senator supports the FCC... blah blah"
It was mildly insulting. The thing was clear they didn't even read it and assumed I was clueless.
Re: Mozilla Files Suit Against FCC to Protect Net Neutrality
#14Why is the EFF not doing this instead of Mozilla ? Also I hope people still pursue municipal broadband, even with NN relying on faceless corporations seems like a bad idea.
Why Google/Netflix is not doing this instead of Mozilla?
EFF's mission statement : ... . Founded in 1990, EFF champions user privacy, free expression, and innovation through impact litigation, policy analysis, grassroots activism, and technology development...
Re: Mozilla Files Suit Against FCC to Protect Net Neutrality
#15Why is the EFF not doing this instead of Mozilla ? Also I hope people still pursue municipal broadband, even with NN relying on faceless corporations seems like a bad idea.
Why Google/Netflix is not doing this instead of Mozilla?
Not a lawyer, but would guess because it would be a waste of their lawyer's and the court's time.
Re: Mozilla Files Suit Against FCC to Protect Net Neutrality
#16Good luck! One more vote in the senate and they can pass a bill to do this. It seems the major providers are holding off on any large changes until they feel it is safe from political blowback. I find this interesting.
> One more vote in the senate and they can pass a bill to do this
Which would matter a lot more if the US had a unicameral legislature with no executive veto; the Senate passing a CRA bill shooting down the FCC repeal of open internet rules would be a potent symbol, but have no binding effect since it has near zero chance in the House and, doesn't have the supermajority in either chamber needed to survive a near-certain Presidential veto.
Re: Mozilla Files Suit Against FCC to Protect Net Neutrality
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
Please rethink your position. There are many people who genuinely care about freedom and privacy working at Mozilla, while at Facebook, Google, and Apple, developers are selling us out every day.
I’m sure there are many people working at Facebook, Google and Apple who also genuinely care about freedom and privacy, while there are developers working at Mozilla who are just as willing to sell out users as anyone. It is true that Mozilla’s a nonprofit, but that doesn’t mean a lot to me when I try to guess what they’ll do in the future.
I think his point was that instead of throwing your hands up in the air and declaring all options to be equally terrible, it might be better to support actors that are generally good.
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#18Why is the EFF not doing this instead of Mozilla ? Also I hope people still pursue municipal broadband, even with NN relying on faceless corporations seems like a bad idea.
A few guesses.
1. These things cost money and resources to initiate. EFF may see this as going nowhere†, so why spend the time and money?
2. EFF can always file a brief if the case ever does go to trial.
3. Almost forgot: Mozilla wants the PR.
†Here's Mozilla's claim:
> Mozilla seeks review of the Order on the grounds that it is arbitrary and capricious within the meaning of the Administrative Procedure Act, 5 U.S.C. §706, it abdicates the FCC's statutory mandate, and it is otherwise contrary to law.
IANAL, but I'm pretty damn sure the FCC can come up with a few decent arguments about why they're not behaving in an arbitrary and capricious manner...
Re: Mozilla Files Suit Against FCC to Protect Net Neutrality
#19I wonder if the fact they bundled adware/spyware in with their browser will affect this.
Why would you insert your misleading message twice in the same topic within 15 minutes? It is hard to understand whether you are a disappointed Mozilla supporter or a paid troll for somebody. This is not exactly an accusation, but that's how it looks.
On the other hand, after this move, now I'm seriously planning to switch to Mozilla.
Re: Mozilla Files Suit Against FCC to Protect Net Neutrality
#20Why is the EFF not doing this instead of Mozilla ? Also I hope people still pursue municipal broadband, even with NN relying on faceless corporations seems like a bad idea.
A few guesses. 1. These things cost money and resources to initiate. EFF may see this as going nowhere†, so why spend the time and money? 2. EFF can always file a brief if the case ever does go to trial. 3. Almost forgot: Mozilla wants the PR. †Here's Mozilla's claim: > Mozilla seeks review of the Order on the grounds that it is arbitrary and capricious within the meaning of the Administrative Procedure Act, 5 U.S.C.…
The FCC has already explained why they believe they're not being arbitrary and capricious. They would repeat the same explanation in the courts.
It's up to the courts to decide whether or not they actually are being "arbitrary and capricious".