They should make it multi threaded, I am seeing so many places in which UI is blocked and unresponsive while waiting for I/O or other logic.
Thunderbird Starts Working on Improving Its Interface
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Re: Thunderbird Starts Working on Improving Its Interface
#62Hm. Surveys are really dangerous tools, especially for UI questions:
https://medium.com/research-things/on-surveys-5a73dda5e9a0
I'm not sure how they'll get much use out of this one. They show (not very representative) screen shots and then ask broad questions, like "Would you say this design is rather confusing or clear?" and "Would you say this design is rather boring or inspiring?"
Setting aside that I don't understand why "rather" is in all of the questions, they're still not great. Is the design of a screwdriver inspiring? I guess not. Is that bad? Definitely not. I don't need my tools to be fonts of warm fuzzy feelings. I need them to be useful.
Even if the questions were material, asking it about a whole screenshot composed of many different design changes inevitably muddles things. And asking it only of 1 old and 1 new screenshot invites people to judge on novelty, not utility.
So my suspicion is that the survey isn't really testing any useful hypotheses. We know that some people like new shiny and some people like old familiar. I don't think much is gained here.
Re: Thunderbird Starts Working on Improving Its Interface
#63Well that's the exact opposite of what I'd personally like in terms of Thunderbird dev time spent. The UI is already perfect. It doesn't need to be re-made to fit smartphone aesthetics.
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#64I tried installing it on Windows 10 yesterday,the buttons on the ad to setup a new account with one of their partners were unresponsive, including the Skip button. I eventually figured out how to setup an existing account without hitting that window but after I added the account, it wouldnt pull in any mail. I went with Claws Mail.
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#65Do yourself (and to other e-mail users in the hacker community) some good and use something like Mutt or Gnus. Sth. like Thunderbird is not worth the hassle if you can edit a configuration file and read a man page (most folk here, I'd guess), and who can't is using Gmail and/or the app on their phones anyways.
can you read HTML emails with Mutt? with pictures?
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#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd say the difference between dead and stable is if you encounter bugs all the time. I find Thunderbird stable (only triggers a bug roughly once per month and nothing critical) while the Lightning plugin for calender functionality is dead (fails to sync with Google for months).
FWIW, I do use Lightning all the time and only know of a couple of minor UI bugs, and at least one other person in my house uses it to sync with external calendars routinely without serious problems as well, so if there are serious bugs there then they don't seem to be universal. In any case, I'd much rather fixing this sort of thing was the priority for the project than yet another UI theme overhaul because reasons.
The order in which you install add-ons, such as the provider for Google calendar and Exchange calendar support, matters. I've spent too long jiggering with add-ons to get them to play nicely together.
Once I have a functioning setup,I copy the profile wholesale from machine to machine. I use Thunderbird every day and have done for years.
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#67Do we really need new design for Thunderbird? How about reusing Photon design system (https://design.firefox.com/photon/) from Firefox?
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#68As a heavy Thunderbird user, my biggest complaint is offline support. An IMAP sync will download new emails' subject lines, but not the actual message bodies. Clicking on an email subject line then requires freezes Thunderbird for multiple seconds while it downloads the message body for that single email.
Right click the account and go to Synchronization and Storage. Double check on individual folders. I know this works because my ImapMail folder (in the profile folder) is much bigger than it would be if it only had subjects, and a quick sampling shows full messages. If you have this on and it's still taking seconds, the problem is probably coming from something else.
Thanks. I double-checked and all my folders are checked in my Synchronization & Storage settings. Something else must be wrong with my settings.
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#69Do yourself (and to other e-mail users in the hacker community) some good and use something like Mutt or Gnus. Sth. like Thunderbird is not worth the hassle if you can edit a configuration file and read a man page (most folk here, I'd guess), and who can't is using Gmail and/or the app on their phones anyways.
can you read HTML emails with Mutt? with pictures?
Feature, not bug.
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#70Great. Can we have multiple lines per mail in the mail column or is that still not possible ? /rant
This is the exact reason I stopped using Thunderbird.