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Do you have anything you're doing that you find particularly interesting, beyond the self-selection?
I, as a man, am being excluded, not because I am unskilled or any other bad quality other than my gender?
Your community's design actively fosters hate and exclusion due to something I can not control.
I hope your service, and others like it, crashes and burns, because it is a step backwards after we have come so far.
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I’m not trolling. The whole idea of viewing individuals primarily as members of an arbitrary group is repugnant and has no place in the tech industry. I hope this project fails.
I can't imagine why a group wouldn't want you in their project.
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I'm not using Facebook's definition of sex to include or exclude anyone. The link to Facebook is so I can check that each new member is real. Anyone who identifies as a woman is invited to join.
Do you use the Facebook link to verify that the person is female? I'm trans and out as a woman in a lot of places, including at the tech company where I work, but not on Facebook.
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I'll go straight to the difficult questions: 1. I thought gender-based discrimination was illegal. How is Leap not illegal? 2. One of the main objections of "gentleman's clubs" was that their (male) members had access to important networking contacts, putting women in unequal foot in an unfair way when it came to businesses. Wouldn't Leap be unfair in the same way?
>Wouldn't Leap be unfair in the same way? This assumption completely disregards the measurable advantage men have in the tech community. If you have identical programs, one for a historically disenfranchised group, and one for the group that's been in power for decades, only one of those programs is shitty. edit: "Advantage" was a poor choice of words, but since it's been quoted in replies I'll leave it. I meant some…
There is obviously an imbalance in the industry, but can you please provide proof that this is due to an advantage that men have?
> If you have identical programs, one for a historically disenfranchised group, and one for the group that's been in power for decades, only one of those programs is shitty.
Why would fighting racism with racism or sexism with sexism be a productive method of correcting imbalances? Wouldn't that just fuel and maintain the disdain between groups?
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I'll go straight to the difficult questions: 1. I thought gender-based discrimination was illegal. How is Leap not illegal? 2. One of the main objections of "gentleman's clubs" was that their (male) members had access to important networking contacts, putting women in unequal foot in an unfair way when it came to businesses. Wouldn't Leap be unfair in the same way?
>Wouldn't Leap be unfair in the same way? This assumption completely disregards the measurable advantage men have in the tech community. If you have identical programs, one for a historically disenfranchised group, and one for the group that's been in power for decades, only one of those programs is shitty. edit: "Advantage" was a poor choice of words, but since it's been quoted in replies I'll leave it. I meant some…
What is that advantage and how is it measured ?
So, just to clarify: I, as a man, am being excluded, not because I am unskilled or any other bad quality other than my gender? Your community's design actively fosters hate and exclusion due to something I can not control. I hope your service, and others like it, crashes and burns, because it is a step backwards after we have come so far.
Hi! I'm the creator of Leap. Glad to answer questions here.
I am really conflicted about this. On one hand, I think that it will provide a valuable resource for a large group of people, which is good! On the other hand, an online tech community designed solely for men would be met with hate and massive backlash. If equality is our goal, how will self-segregation help meet that goal?
Hi! I'm the creator of Leap. Glad to answer questions here.
Is Leap for people who are i) female, ii) identify as a woman, or iii) both?
I ask because I have a few friends who are biologically female, but genderqueer (by which they mean that they don't prescribe to the cultural stuff that is usually attached to gender). Would this be suitable for them?
As a more general note, since this looks to be a community that's about inclusion and addressing discrimination, it might be worth taking care not to conflate "female" and "woman".
Hi! I'm the creator of Leap. Glad to answer questions here.
I'll go straight to the difficult questions: 1. I thought gender-based discrimination was illegal. How is Leap not illegal? 2. One of the main objections of "gentleman's clubs" was that their (male) members had access to important networking contacts, putting women in unequal foot in an unfair way when it came to businesses. Wouldn't Leap be unfair in the same way?
However, I do wonder about comments like this:
> "a community where the core culture was set by women, and the software and product decisions were also made by women"
Progressives are currently combatting this same kind of toxic / exclusionary behavior in men that exacerbates the inequality between men and women to this day.