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Re: Show HN: HardyPress – Use WordPress as a static site generator

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Gatsbyjs (reactjs based static site generator) is a very good free alternative. It has a plugin which allows you to use WordPress as a headless CMS to create/update content and another plugin which allows to push your the WordPress content to Github Pages (Gitlab or other static site hosting services):

https://github.com/gatsbyjs/gatsby/tree/master/examples/usin...

Re: Show HN: HardyPress – Use WordPress as a static site generator

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This looks exciting. As much as I dislike WordPress, it's here to stay and clients ask for it by name. This sounds like a nice compromise for those that want a GUI to make content changes but also want the security and performance advantages of a static site.

It's a nice idea for novices, but there are WordPress plugins that can create static sites from WordPress installations.

Yes, there are some plugins that "staticize" your website, but

1) you still need to have and maintain secure the WordPress Installation somewhere. With HardyPress WP can be paused and restored when needed with a click.

2) you have to download the static version and upload it somewhere else manually (your client certainly can't do it on their own). HardyPress does it with a click.

3) contact forms and search will stop working. With HardyPress, if you use CF7, everything will work seemlessy.

To solve the problems above HaryPress needs to hosts your WP installation.

Re: Show HN: HardyPress – Use WordPress as a static site generator

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I build a lot of Wordpress sites of all types of complexity, including sites that could benefit from being static. My main reasons for likely not using your service would be: You become my new hosting company and that worries me. But more importantly, these 3 selling points "Support for Contact Forms 7", "Instant search out of the box", "Keep using plugins". I now have to vet plugins myself and guess if they are goin…

Many thanks for your thoughts :-)

Actually yes, we are a new hosting company, but the live site is hosted an a AWS-S3 bucket with a CDN in front of it, so, even if you don't trust us, I could feel quite safe with it.

In my personal experience, I used to have a web agency with dozens of WordPress installation to keep alive, mostly of them where simple “brochure” sites. I used auto-update mechanisms and caching layers provided by the hosting service, but it happened more than once to have security/performance/technical problems and headaches.

Only after I put the static copy of these sites online I started sleeping well at night. There was no way that things could go wrong.

Of course it is easier if you build them with the "static solution" in mind. Anyway you will find a compatibility list of the plugin you are using on the site dashboard once your site is on HardyPress.

Re: Show HN: HardyPress – Use WordPress as a static site generator

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a nice idea for novices, but there are WordPress plugins that can create static sites from WordPress installations.

Yes, there are some plugins that "staticize" your website, but 1) you still need to have and maintain secure the WordPress Installation somewhere. With HardyPress WP can be paused and restored when needed with a click. 2) you have to download the static version and upload it somewhere else manually (your client certainly can't do it on their own). HardyPress does it with a click. 3) contact forms and search will stop…

And pay you money :)

Re: Show HN: HardyPress – Use WordPress as a static site generator

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, there are some plugins that "staticize" your website, but 1) you still need to have and maintain secure the WordPress Installation somewhere. With HardyPress WP can be paused and restored when needed with a click. 2) you have to download the static version and upload it somewhere else manually (your client certainly can't do it on their own). HardyPress does it with a click. 3) contact forms and search will stop…

And pay you money :)

Yep, like for every hosting solution ;-)

Re: Show HN: HardyPress – Use WordPress as a static site generator

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How safe is this in comparison to running WordPress in a container with all uploads go to S3 for example? WordPress provides ready to use Docker images which should be fairly easy to upgrade. Sure, it's not for the novice users...

There is huge differences between running a live WordPress site on a docker container (where you still have php, mysql, etc), and running it as a static site in a serverless environment.

Re: Show HN: HardyPress – Use WordPress as a static site generator

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Could anyone make a list of free-alternatives? Tiresome seeing every little idea turning into a 5 USD a month SaaS-startup.

Free alternative: Host WP yourself? Use a different static site generator?

Come on, this clearly isn't yet-another-static-site generator for hackers but a commercial product for people who still use Wordpress, but not so foolish/desperate/cheap that they don't realise the security implications.

Re: Show HN: HardyPress – Use WordPress as a static site generator

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Could anyone make a list of free-alternatives? Tiresome seeing every little idea turning into a 5 USD a month SaaS-startup.

Free alternative: Host WP yourself? Use a different static site generator? Come on, this clearly isn't yet-another-static-site generator for hackers but a commercial product for people who still use Wordpress, but not so foolish/desperate/cheap that they don't realise the security implications.

There are a couple of free plugins to make WP sites static, using various methods. So yes, use a plugin and you can get an HTML copy of your WP site with caveats that should make sense, and you can then host the html anywhere... there are 2-3 plugins that I saw, but I don't run a WP site so I can't comment on each.

This product looks like it'll do ops and stuff for you, so there may still be value if it just works.

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