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Re: Google Memory Loss

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Post by zentiggr »

rspeer wrote: post #296
TeMPOraL wrote: post #236

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Which means the corpus is broken. But regular people rarely care about correct spelling, in my experience, and so I doubt corpus maintainers will care either...

You're imagining that people who make NLP corpora actually vet the text going into them? I dream of a world where people can be convinced to care that much. I'm not even talking about the scenario you suggest of filtering for proper word usage, I'm talking about filtering at all . The corpora used for popular word embeddings are full of weird nonsense text (in the case of word2vec) or autogenerated awfulness like spa…

That is one of the most draining things I've heard recently. Sigh. Are these open projects where someone could in principle improve them?

Re: Google Memory Loss

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Post by zentiggr »

hrktb wrote: post #406
jokermatt999 wrote: post #307

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I'm not sure I've got a fully formed concept here, but I'm throwing it out in case someone finds it interesting. Re: long-tail movements and switching contexts between work and home, I wonder if a better example isn't much better user or persona management. Every person is interested in more than just one thing, and can conceivably be looking for the same word in two contexts. Down below, a multi-lingual speaker has…

One of the difficulties I see with this approach is to identify personas. It would be fine it was work + home persona. I feel though that it woild end up like work local branch + work parent company report + work programming + home family member + home personal hobbies + home grand parent’s health For context I already have two IDs for work and private stuff, I still hit a lot of barriers on Google search and ended u…

A bit on the snarky side I realize, but someone at Facebook has probably already dug into this. Whether or not they'll admit it or discuss it publicly is far less likely.

Re: Google Memory Loss

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Post by cbr »

Buge wrote: post #356
cbr wrote: post #189

Hmm. I just tried to reproduce this with old posts of my own and couldn't. I picked random phrases from five early 2006 blog posts that get basically no traffic and searched for them: "I had been playing the accordion Davy lent to Rosie during winter break" "The language they're using is not that different from the one I wrote PlayGUI to use" "I've been playing a decent amount of music lately, mostly guitar and piano…

>Google found all three. All five? Or 3/5?

Sorry, all five. I wrote the comment with three, then thought more data would be better and tried two more.

Re: Google Memory Loss

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Post by cbr »

cbr wrote: post #189

Hmm. I just tried to reproduce this with old posts of my own and couldn't. I picked random phrases from five early 2006 blog posts that get basically no traffic and searched for them: "I had been playing the accordion Davy lent to Rosie during winter break" "The language they're using is not that different from the one I wrote PlayGUI to use" "I've been playing a decent amount of music lately, mostly guitar and piano…

Expanded this into a post: https://www.jefftk.com/p/google-losing-its-memory

Re: Google Memory Loss

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Post by epistasis »

klodolph wrote: post #241
gaius wrote: post #227

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On BlackBerry if it autocorrected to something you didn’t want, one press of delete would revert to your original word. iOS makes you a) rekey the whole thing and b) will probably try to change it again . I can only assume that no one (or moons, it literally just tried) who works on this uses it themselves!

On iOS, one press of delete and what you originally typed will show as a suggestion.

That's not true for this situation. For the "deep" replacements more than a word back that we're talking about, and also other changes that happen without any user notification via blue text popups, there is no easy way to fix without the long process of moving the cursor.

Re: Google Memory Loss

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Post by mikehollinger »

danmaz74 wrote: post #305
greenhouse_gas wrote: post #300

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On the other hand, from my experience: I wanted to see how Raspberry Pi assembly worked - quite a niche subject (who programs? In assembly? On a Raspberry Pi?). Yet I found quite a few blogs going through the subject - a tutorial of sorts. I was also looking up how to write an OS (just for fun) - another fairly niche field. Yet I found tons of tutorials in C, C++, and Rust. I remember trying the same in the 1990s. Na…

In my experience, it depends a lot on how much competition there is from content farms. If your niche isn't targeted by those, it's easy to find the good blogs. Otherwise, it's very difficult. I suppose that this is a use case where ML could help a lot to recognize "content farmed + SEO optimized" content. Hopefully Google could improve the situation in the future - supposing they are trying.

One of the most entertaining "bugs" that popped up recently while I was looking around for some opinion content that I would _hope_ is recent was that one of the content farm sites plagiarized a rather good blog post, sentence for sentence, for pages and pages. Instead of "I found that ..." they'd thinly-edited it to "Now, let us find..."

The annoying thing was that the content farm appeared _above_ the original content.

Re: Google Memory Loss

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Post by cup-of-tea »

yots wrote: post #418
alien_at_work wrote: post #410

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The only one detracting from anything is you. The rest of us read the comment just fine. I'm american myself and know the "rack" slang but the meaning you suggested didn't occur to me until you pointed it out. I assumed the name had something to do with where this person (I don't know who he's talking about) used to work or some infamous project that went badly or something. Understanding the name didn't seem critica…

No, not all of us. I didn't read the comment just fine either. I assumed a person who uses irrelevant misogynist slurs may have a personal grudge against the person he's insulting, so I'm not going to take anything he says about her very seriously.

Wait, misogynistic? You think "rackless" was a comment about her body? If it was that would be strange and innapropriate. I didn't read it that way and it didn't occur to me before this comment. I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt that it wasn't meant to be that because it would be so unexpected.

Re: Google Memory Loss

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Post by alien_at_work »

yots wrote: post #418
alien_at_work wrote: post #410

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only one detracting from anything is you. The rest of us read the comment just fine. I'm american myself and know the "rack" slang but the meaning you suggested didn't occur to me until you pointed it out. I assumed the name had something to do with where this person (I don't know who he's talking about) used to work or some infamous project that went badly or something. Understanding the name didn't seem critica…

No, not all of us. I didn't read the comment just fine either. I assumed a person who uses irrelevant misogynist slurs may have a personal grudge against the person he's insulting, so I'm not going to take anything he says about her very seriously.

> irrelevant misogynist slurs

Has the OP confirmed that this is what the phrase meant? Because otherwise you're projecting meaning on something that may not have been intended (again, I have the back ground to recognize this kind of slur but I didn't see it in the original comment until it was pointed out). Why would you do that?

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