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Re: Google Memory Loss

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Post by taneq »

wingworks wrote: post #222
Puer wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meanwhile their image recognition gets better and better. For those of you who use Google Photos backup, try a keyword image search in Google Drive sometime of your untagged photos ("beach", "face," etc.) You'll be creepily surprised on what Google is indexing, even against what they claim they don't (try some sketchier words).

I searched for "paper" today and one of the results was a toilet :P But yes I agree, it has been getting better.

Was there toilet paper in the picture? :P

Re: Google Memory Loss

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Post by RileyJames »

tobinfricke wrote: post #32

I just noticed this also, earlier today. I have a blog entry titled "Highest airports in California" that I attempted to find using Google. Even with the double quotes, and restricting the search to the correct site, it doesn't seem to come up in search results. The site's robots.txt seems permissive enough. What's up? link: https://nibot.livejournal.com/1075122.html

This comment now comes up with the quotes search term, so your blog post will likely be indexed again in the next few days. If you submit a sitemap to google search console[1] you'll be able to see which pages have/n't been indexed. I'm not sure how else you can easily track indexing.

https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/

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Post by tjoff »

So from a busi­ness point of view, it’s hard to make a case for Google in­dex­ing ev­ery­thing, no mat­ter how old and how ob­scure.

I don't get that line of thought, somehow people have starting defend lack of quality as something expected or reasonable.

The whole point of going to google is to find stuff, that includes "boring" old and obscure stuff that won't sell ads. But that is part of the deal, if google don't care about that why should I care about google?

While we are on the subject, I still miss being able add a + in front of a word to highlight its significance, this was removed in favor of google+ (you can still do it with quotes) but now when google+ has been irrelevant for the better part of a decade maybe it is time let us quickly emphasis words? Sigh.

Re: Google Memory Loss

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Post by wingworks »

wingworks wrote: post #222
Puer wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meanwhile their image recognition gets better and better. For those of you who use Google Photos backup, try a keyword image search in Google Drive sometime of your untagged photos ("beach", "face," etc.) You'll be creepily surprised on what Google is indexing, even against what they claim they don't (try some sketchier words).

I searched for "paper" today and one of the results was a toilet :P But yes I agree, it has been getting better.

Just had a look, turns out there was haha. Guess that's why then.

Re: Google Memory Loss

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Post by novia »

colordrops wrote: post #126
Declanomous wrote: post #101

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> has seemingly degraded into an approximation of a search engine that has knowledge of only very superficial information, will try to rewrite your queries and omit words (including the very word that makes all the difference...) I think the biggest irony is that the web allows for more adoption of long-tail movements than ever before, and Google has gotten significantly worse at turning these up. I assume this has s…

This same AI effect can be seen in the Android keyboard, where _properly_ spelled words will be replaced after typing another word or two because it's been determined to be more likely what you want. It's infuriating.

I've been trying to figure out how to disable that! Anyone have any ideas? Google search turned up no results, but after this thread I shouldn't be surprised.

Re: Google Memory Loss

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Post by TeMPOraL »

yorwba wrote: post #219
jjoonathan wrote: post #180

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If I type "its" and "it's" correctly, they are regularly changed to the incorrect spelling. If I don't bother, they are not corrected. The only way to get correct "its" and "it's" is to go back and fix them after auto-correct has screwed them up.

It's probably because the spelling is corrected based on a machine-learned model, whose corpus is likely to contain many instances where "its" and "it's" were swapped.

Which means the corpus is broken. But regular people rarely care about correct spelling, in my experience, and so I doubt corpus maintainers will care either...

Re: Google Memory Loss

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Post by mirimir »

chx wrote: post #223
mathattack wrote: post #147

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Yes. The problem seems to be compounded by Google's intention to correct spelling, and (for the long tail searches) to assume you're really just looking for whatever everyone else is searching for.

Yes! You need to beat Google with a stick to enable searching for the furce awakens (that's not a typo) poster which Disney itself produced. Used to be that quotes around a phrase stopped this typo correcting but no longer. BTW. this is my go-to example for the "piracy is a service problem" -- this is 100% Disney IP for the fans of two billion dollar movies and you can't buy it as a poster. https://images.moviepilot.…

Huh? I just searched for "the furce awakens". And got:

    Showing results for "the force awakens"
    Search instead for "the furce awakens"
And hitting that got me the Zootopia stuff. So?

Re: Google Memory Loss

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Post by novia »

fsloth wrote: post #228
colordrops wrote: post #126

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This same AI effect can be seen in the Android keyboard, where _properly_ spelled words will be replaced after typing another word or two because it's been determined to be more likely what you want. It's infuriating.

That's simple to turn off. At least on my Samsung.

Please teach me. It's driving me crazy.

Re: Google Memory Loss

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Post by mirimir »

gaius wrote: post #225
userbinator wrote: post #93

I've noticed this many times too, particularly recently, and I call it "Google Alzheimer's" --- what was once a very powerful search engine that could give you thousands (yes, I've tried exhausting its result pages many times, and used to have much success finding the perfect site many dozens of pages deep in the results) of pages containing nothing but the exact words and phrase you search for has seemingly degraded…

very superficial information, will try to rewrite your queries and omit words (including the very word that makes all the difference --- I didn't put it in the search query for nothing!) This is the algorithm deciding that it’s way results in more ad revenue for Google. What do you do? You repeat the query again and they show you a second lot of ads. But let’s be honest if Google could show you as many ads without re…

Ads? What ads? I see no ads.

Re: Google Memory Loss

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Post by _ikke_ »

novia wrote: post #235
colordrops wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This same AI effect can be seen in the Android keyboard, where _properly_ spelled words will be replaced after typing another word or two because it's been determined to be more likely what you want. It's infuriating.

I've been trying to figure out how to disable that! Anyone have any ideas? Google search turned up no results, but after this thread I shouldn't be surprised.

I use Swift keyboard on Android, never had these kinds of issues, its predictions are remarkably good.
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