Airbus A380, Once the Future of Aviation, May Cease Production
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#2Putting public pressure on Emirates, by Airbus's outgoing sales chief: "buy now or you won't be able to buy in the future"
"Mr. Leahy, the Airbus chief operating officer, said on Monday that the A380’s best days were ahead. Passenger traffic is doubling every 15 years, he said, meaning that the original rationale for the model still holds."
They just need to tide it over the lean years.
EDIT: clarified what I meant with "pressure"
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#3I like to use A380 as an analogy when a team works to perfect a product, adds lots of features, rewrites it a few times with the latest most buzzword-compliant technology, tests it until it is absolutely perfect, and ships it. ... Only to find out by that time the market has moved on and nobody wants to buy that kind of a thing anymore.
Pretty sure that's a common theme for companies which end up on https://ourincrediblejourney.tumblr.com/
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#4Putting public pressure on Emirates, by Airbus's outgoing sales chief: "buy now or you won't be able to buy in the future" "Mr. Leahy, the Airbus chief operating officer, said on Monday that the A380’s best days were ahead. Passenger traffic is doubling every 15 years, he said, meaning that the original rationale for the model still holds." They just need to tide it over the lean years. EDIT: clarified what I meant w…
But the smaller planes are more efficient and scale better.
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#5If you follow @FakeUnitedJeff (United CEO parody account, but obviously an insider), he said this today:
"I predict Airbus will abandon the A380 soon and the type will phase out of non-Mideast 3 as they hit their first major maintenance check or lease end."
Worth nothing that the first A380 to enter passenger service just finished its 10-year lease to Singapore Airlines. SA chose to return the plane.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-08/parked-in...
Re: Airbus A380, Once the Future of Aviation, May Cease Production
#6If you follow @FakeUnitedJeff (United CEO parody account, but obviously an insider), he said this today: "I predict Airbus will abandon the A380 soon and the type will phase out of non-Mideast 3 as they hit their first major maintenance check or lease end." Worth nothing that the first A380 to enter passenger service just finished its 10-year lease to Singapore Airlines. SA chose to return the plane. https://www.bloo…
Are most planes leased? Do the manufacturers try to resell them when they come off lease or are they inspected to be used for parts for repair?
Re: Airbus A380, Once the Future of Aviation, May Cease Production
#7Putting public pressure on Emirates, by Airbus's outgoing sales chief: "buy now or you won't be able to buy in the future" "Mr. Leahy, the Airbus chief operating officer, said on Monday that the A380’s best days were ahead. Passenger traffic is doubling every 15 years, he said, meaning that the original rationale for the model still holds." They just need to tide it over the lean years. EDIT: clarified what I meant w…
But the smaller planes are more efficient and scale better.
More efficient in what terms?
Re: Airbus A380, Once the Future of Aviation, May Cease Production
#8If you follow @FakeUnitedJeff (United CEO parody account, but obviously an insider), he said this today: "I predict Airbus will abandon the A380 soon and the type will phase out of non-Mideast 3 as they hit their first major maintenance check or lease end." Worth nothing that the first A380 to enter passenger service just finished its 10-year lease to Singapore Airlines. SA chose to return the plane. https://www.bloo…
Are most planes leased? Do the manufacturers try to resell them when they come off lease or are they inspected to be used for parts for repair?
Most aircraft of that size are leased new - and then re-leased or sold to budget carriers.[1]
New models come out and the airline may want to switch/upgrade, and it's a lot of capital tied up in one aircraft if they were to purchase them outright.
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#9Putting public pressure on Emirates, by Airbus's outgoing sales chief: "buy now or you won't be able to buy in the future" "Mr. Leahy, the Airbus chief operating officer, said on Monday that the A380’s best days were ahead. Passenger traffic is doubling every 15 years, he said, meaning that the original rationale for the model still holds." They just need to tide it over the lean years. EDIT: clarified what I meant w…
But the smaller planes are more efficient and scale better.
There's a limit to scalability at airports, especially the big & busy ones in western metropolis: JFK, LHR, FRA.
It's easy to build a new runway, or a new airport, in the desert, or when you can evict anyone in the way. But try doing in a country ruled by law, when the city has long engulfed the airport build in the 60s.
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are most planes leased? Do the manufacturers try to resell them when they come off lease or are they inspected to be used for parts for repair?
Most aircraft of that size are leased new - and then re-leased or sold to budget carriers.[1] New models come out and the airline may want to switch/upgrade, and it's a lot of capital tied up in one aircraft if they were to purchase them outright. [1] https://aviation.stackexchange.com/a/2374/2294
This Quora answer is a good resource too:
https://www.quora.com/How-does-the-airplane-leasing-business...
The TLDR is that leasing allows the airline a lot more flexibility in acquiring aircraft (and returning them if demand changes). It's cheaper to break the lease than try to sell a used aircraft on the open market. In the case of A380, it's probably keeping a few airlines out of bankruptcy.