Wow, what a lot of boring people we are going to create.
The future is finally looking up from my perspective, hopefully this leads to an asetic culture.
Teenagers now better behaved and less hedonistic but lonelier and more isolated
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#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why? What’s so intrinsically special in monogamy to deserve the label “unmitigated good”?
Long term it's the most stable.
Hmm, not sure there's enough data to discern confounding factors and assert monogamy guarantees stable and durable relations. Narrative and history actually suggest otherwise, that the constraint or expectation of monogamy eventually undoes the relationship...
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#124Teenagers have always rebelled against the rules and ideas imposed on them by their parents/grandparents. This does not mean that they will be more lenient/hedonistic than their parents though! We’re seeing the counterexample in the coming generations. It’s pretty funny to see people’s dismissive reactions in this thread. So much for not being bigoted like your parents, eh? :)
Not saying I fully buy into it, but this shift is exactly as predicted by Strauss–Howe generational theory.[1] The younger, more conformist Artist archetype generation ('Gen Z,' b2005-????) shows different behavior from the older, more individualistic Hero archetype generation ('Gen Y,' b1982-2004).
The cutoff isn't exactly distinct (some people put it after 9/11/2001), so depending on who you ask either Gen Z is just entering teenage years (2005), or most teenagers are already Gen Zers (2001).
Heck, it even predict HN's (Gen Yers) general reaction of disdain for the "overprotected" and "timid" generation. Take comfort though: it also predicts that Gen Y will be a dominant generation ("independent behavior + attitudes in defining an era"), while Gen Z will be recessive ("dependent role in defining an era").
Here are the descriptions. I added the actual and projected dates of the latest cycle in parentheses:
> Hero generations enter childhood after an Awakening (1961–1981), during an Unraveling (1982-2004), a time of individual pragmatism, self-reliance, and laissez faire. Heroes grow up as increasingly protected post-Awakening children, come of age as team-oriented young optimists during a Crisis (2005-2025), emerge as energetic, overly-confident midlifers (2025-2044), and age into politically powerful elders attacked by another Awakening (2045-2064).
> Artist generations enter childhood after an Unraveling (1982-2004), during a Crisis (2005-2025) a time when great dangers cut down social and political complexity in favor of public consensus, aggressive institutions, and an ethic of personal sacrifice. Artists grow up overprotected by adults preoccupied with the Crisis, come of age as the socialized and conformist young adults of a post-Crisis world (2025-2044), break out as process-oriented midlife leaders during an Awakening (2045-2065), and age into thoughtful post-Awakening elders (2065-2084).
"History doesn’t repeat itself, but it often rhymes."
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strauss-Howe_generational_theo...
Re: Teenagers now better behaved and less hedonistic but lonelier and more isolated
#125Something I think that needs to be discussed more is the fact that loneliness in society is actually starting to become a real social issue. People who are lonely are seemingly told by society that their loneliness is internal and must ultimately be their fault...but given the fact that studies like the above show that it is becoming much more prevalent in society seems to suggest there might be societal/structural c…
Could anyone with knowledge on history provide us with a similar situation in history? I can't imagine this problem is truly new, but I can imagine it's been a while.