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Re: LGPL violation/Missing references to Ethereumj project

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Post by belorn »

colejohnson66 wrote: post #48
belorn wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There does not exist a license permissible enough that allow you to remove the license and replace it.

Public domain or CC0?

Public domain is special since its a natural aspect of copyright law rather than a license, where a person don't need permission once a work is in public domain.

CC0 tries to mimic this but here the tricky part of permissions comes into place. If I give you permission to do anything and you remove the permission text and claim the work as your own, do you still have permission? It a rather popular discussion in regard to cc0, and the consensus where I have seen it seems to be that you need the license in order to have permission. I have also seen lawyers arguing that copyright law itself has limits on what rights a license can give, such as attribution.

Re: LGPL violation/Missing references to Ethereumj project

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Post by oelmekki »

theincredulousk wrote: post #28

Aww man you mean these alternative cryptocurrencies are just copy pasting from github and giving them a new name? I like that people publish their code and then cry when people take it. The area between FOSS and proprietary software is a purgatory for people with analysis paralysis that can’t pick a fucking side.

I don't think that's the issue, here: the person who opened the issue is complaining about legal mention not being there, not about the code being reused.

This is not a minor problem, because turn over is high in developers world. If you don't leave a comment mentioning the code came from somewhere else, it's easy a few years later for a new dev to think their predecessors wrote that code and to recommend their company to sue projects around where they see the same code (possibly without legal mention too).

Not to mention that when you give your code for free and make other people's job easier, the least you deserve is to be credited.

Re: LGPL violation/Missing references to Ethereumj project

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Post by tyingq »

School-Cotton wrote: post #13
tehlike wrote: post #4

Is tron name itself a violation of trademark, or copyright of Disney? Not much knowledgable on IP laws in the US, hence the question.

"Tron" is just a sound generically associated with futuristic high tech, most likely originally because of the word "electron". From OED: "tron" is "used in the names of devices and machines, spec. particle accelerators, as cyclotron (1935), betatron (1941), phantastron (1943), levitron (1960)."

Also klystron (1937) and magnetron (1910).

Re: LGPL violation/Missing references to Ethereumj project

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Post by smoyer »

tehlike wrote: post #4

Is tron name itself a violation of trademark, or copyright of Disney? Not much knowledgable on IP laws in the US, hence the question.

Tron wasn't just the movie ... there was software embodied as a video game so in my opinion, you can't argue that you're in a different business. domain.

Re: LGPL violation/Missing references to Ethereumj project

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Post by imtringued »

rubber_duck wrote: post #47
bitL wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With <30 transactions/s, which is state-of-art, they don't have any future. If a better protocol keeping Satoshi's goals but more scalable is invented, then we will see something that might not be just a bubble.

Technology isn't even the biggest issue - even if you had fast zero fee transactions you still have the problem of inherent volatility and deflation. Volume doesn't help with volatility here, at least not in the current designs that have fixed money supply - the incentive to hold becomes even larger the more use a coin sees - you make a contract for x coins in 10 months that's worth 10x - that just makes everything t…

Services like BitPay require transactions to go through quickly. If your transaction arrives an hour too late the bitcoin price in usd has changed and bitpay refunds you your money or asks you to send more money. In both cases you have to pay the transaction fee again.

I wouldn't be surprised if a high transaction fee increases the speed of deflation. Smaller transactions are stuck and will be forgotten. Spending the currency is difficult. All you can do is hold or convert to fiat.

Re: LGPL violation/Missing references to Ethereumj project

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Post by numismatex »

colejohnson66 wrote: post #49
theincredulousk wrote: post #28

Aww man you mean these alternative cryptocurrencies are just copy pasting from github and giving them a new name? I like that people publish their code and then cry when people take it. The area between FOSS and proprietary software is a purgatory for people with analysis paralysis that can’t pick a fucking side.

> I like that people publish their code and then cry when people take it. So because I want to show the world something I wrote and think is cool, it’s ok for others to copy it, and I shouldn’t complain if they do so illegally?

When you're talking about mathematical formulas that haven't been patented, and use in other countries, yes, completely fine because it's not illegal in that other country. Look into copyright law before you open your mouth.

Re: LGPL violation/Missing references to Ethereumj project

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Post by revelation »

AndrewCHMcM wrote: post #33

> For those who are whining about this issue. All these issues are common in development. If you say it's not, you haven't worked on serious projects with so much pressure to deliver. Don't most "serious" companies have lawyers that will spit venom at you if you even think about looking at code that doesn't have a permissible enough license?

Plenty of companies out there that blatantly violate the GPL.

Re: LGPL violation/Missing references to Ethereumj project

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Post by CPLX »

justboxing wrote: post #34
ve55 wrote: post #15

For those that haven't heard of TRON, it is what I would call one of the most successful scams in the history of cryptocurrency. It is a currency that was made on top of Ethereum (thus, it took no actual effort to create, as this can be done instantly and for free), paired with a significant amount of hype and lies to investors. The TRON Whitepaper (what investors are 'supposed' to read and invest off of) is written…

Wow. Thanks for the sources. His Twitter profile says "@Forbes Asia 30 Under 30丨the Only Millennial Student of Jack Ma from @alibabagroup"

My favorite part of the 30 under 30 lists is the part where there are literally thousands of people claiming they are on a list of 30 people.

Re: LGPL violation/Missing references to Ethereumj project

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Post by yellowapple »

CPLX wrote: post #58
justboxing wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow. Thanks for the sources. His Twitter profile says "@Forbes Asia 30 Under 30丨the Only Millennial Student of Jack Ma from @alibabagroup"

My favorite part of the 30 under 30 lists is the part where there are literally thousands of people claiming they are on a list of 30 people.

Kind of like how literally every book nowadays is a "New York Times Bestseller".

Re: LGPL violation/Missing references to Ethereumj project

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Post by tehlike »

rubber_duck wrote: post #47
bitL wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With <30 transactions/s, which is state-of-art, they don't have any future. If a better protocol keeping Satoshi's goals but more scalable is invented, then we will see something that might not be just a bubble.

Technology isn't even the biggest issue - even if you had fast zero fee transactions you still have the problem of inherent volatility and deflation. Volume doesn't help with volatility here, at least not in the current designs that have fixed money supply - the incentive to hold becomes even larger the more use a coin sees - you make a contract for x coins in 10 months that's worth 10x - that just makes everything t…

There are inflationary cryptocurrencies like monero.
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