Live data from Hacker News

Is Your English Accent British or American?

myaccent.cambridgeconsultants.com

141–144 of 144 posts

Re: Is Your English Accent British or American?

#141
post #124
post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How did Received Pronunciation catch on? It seems that Britain is chock-full of different accents, especially from the north, but all the English ones sort of contain elements of RP, like the unpronounced R's (Irish and Scottish don't.)

The split came about through formalised education. The British you hear today is upper middle class, noble English. Similar happened in France and French Quebec. Modern French is formalised Parisian french. While Canadian French is country French, according to a very posh friend, the most educated quebecois still sounds like a country hick the first time he hears them.

> Similar happened in France and French Quebec. Modern French is formalized Parisian french. While Canadian French is country French, according to a very posh friend, the most educated québécois still sounds like a country hick the first time he hears them.

You got it backward. Modern French is bourgeois Parisian French. It was standardized more than a century after the French revolution (in the 1880's when public education became mandatory).

When Québec was colonized in the 1600's, only a handful of territories in France spoke French, mostly around Paris. This was the language of the court, the nobility and a minority of peasants. The rest of the country spoke various languages, such as Caló, Catalan, Corsican, Franco-Provençal, Ligurian, Occitan, Flemish, Luxembourgish, Alsatian, Breton, and Basque [1]. Furthermore, Parisian French was only one of the d'Oïl languages spoken at the time [2].

The colonists that settled and explored Québec were mostly from northern France, the region where an Oïl language was spoken. The language spoken in the colony was standardized to match the one of the royal administration (Parisian French).

Due to not being a French Territory when the revolution happened, Québec kept a fork of Royal French. Reading written french from the 1600's and 1700's out loud is striking, as it's almost identical the pronunciation of modern Québécois French. An example of this is the term "Moi", spelled Moé in the 1700's and pronounced Mo-a (Moi) by modern continental French and Mo-Hey (Moé) in Québécois French.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_policy_in_France#Mino...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Langues_d%27o%C3%AFl

Re: Is Your English Accent British or American?

#142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have so many questions for you right now. - what does Finnish rally driver sound like - how did you meet Dame Judy Dench - where are you actually from? It's pretty funny how language roots show. Finnish and Hungarian are the same family of languages and apparently Dame Judy picked up on it!

- what does Finnish rally driver sound like: https://youtu.be/fZfxJ7BST8E - how did you meet Dame Judy Dench: At Heathrow Tesco. All Britons look the same, but she was quite "posh". Dame of that age and looks, but did not confirm the exact identity. - where are you actually from? Finland, github.com/timonoko

Torilla tavataan!!

Re: Is Your English Accent British or American?

#143
post #108
post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

*password I believe. Upvoted.

No, "passport". It was clearly a reference to the voice authentication hack in _Sneakers_.

Indeed. They took a bunch of smaller words and spliced them together to fake his voice print. Cambridge Consultants are clearly harvesting our voice prints for the CIA. ;)
Post reply on HN