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CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work

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Re: CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work

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Here's what I want robots to do: 1) Wash my dishes, dry them and put them away completely automatically. 2) Wash and dry my clothes, fold them and put them away completely automatically. These two things would save me hours of work per week. FoldiMate simply isn't even close to being good enough, but I'd be willing to spend about that much for a robot that could do #2. I can vacuum my floor by myself and greet people…

well,just list the things you do on a weekly basis for a family - making meals - driving kids - laundry - grocery and other shopping - picking up - finances and planning I think all of these are ripe for (more) disruption.

Most of these things have long since been disrupted:

Making meals :- go to a cafe, been around for centuries, uber eats etc. Worst case, get frozen meals (some are really good) and bung them in the microwave.

Driving Kids :- Taxi, bus, chauffeur, again have been around for ages, auto drive cars are not that far away, but will you be willing to abandon your kids to the machine?

Grocery and other shopping:- Amazon, online shopping.

Picking up:- If you can't manage to put things away yourself, then get a maid or cleaner.

As somebody else posted, most of these automated devices don't seem to have got much further than they were in the tech shows of the late 70's, they just have more "AI" built in the seem to be designed to make you purchase from their vendor.

Re: CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work

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Anyone here go to CES who can corroborate the linked story?

That stupid laundry folding robot was there. They had a "show" every 15 minutes or so where they would pick a person from the audience to stuff clothes into the machine and have them not folded (the demo machine only had the loader).

I didn't see the crashed companion robots. They were working when I walked by, but I didn't pay them much mind because I thought they were stupid. There were also a number of advertising robots which show up every year. They have screens for heads/chests and don't do much of anything useful. The new addition this year was a French model that was built like a Heroin Chic Supermodel instead of the superdeformed look that most of the Japanese companies opt for.

IMHO, Google's voice stuff was more common than Alexa this year. It actually got annoying to hear someone say "hey Google" for the millionth time. Even the goddamn Monorail was saying it.

Re: CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work

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I understand and agree with these desires. However, getting fewer and simpler clothes can near solve the second problem for much cheaper. Similarly, eating out comes close to solving the first problem. Will be very cost competitive with robots for the same in the foreseeable future. To the point that solving this problem will require more behavior change from us than we're likely to realize.

>I understand and agree with these desires. However, getting fewer and simpler clothes can near solve the second problem for much cheaper. Good luck convincing most people to wear t-shirts and jeans every day, let alone a small number of them. No thanks.

There's a problem with t-shirt and jeans every day? Nobody told me... ;-)

Re: CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work

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Here's what I want robots to do: 1) Wash my dishes, dry them and put them away completely automatically. 2) Wash and dry my clothes, fold them and put them away completely automatically. These two things would save me hours of work per week. FoldiMate simply isn't even close to being good enough, but I'd be willing to spend about that much for a robot that could do #2. I can vacuum my floor by myself and greet people…

If the sky's the limit, I'd like kiva for my home. Maybe a dumb waiter would open in the wall with a little standard sized basket. I'd name what I'm storing, like tennis racket or snow shoes, and it would whisk it away to a storage space under the house or in the walls somewhere. I ask for it by name, the house brings it back to the portal. An uncluttered house where I can have anything I use once a year within secon…

From an engineering standpoint, what you describe is likely actually possible to implement right now. It would be expensive as heck, but it should be doable.

Meanwhile, no amount of money can currently buy you a robot that will completely do your laundry, because the problem has not yet been solved. The development of this stuff is not exactly intuitive.

Re: CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work

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What was your favorite product at CES ?

One thing I'd thought about for years finally appeared at CES. They had a mister you attach to the outside unit of your heat pump. It included the deionizer/water softener to prevent the minerals from building up on your A/C.

But then the company ruined it by selling it only as a $100/year service.

Re: CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work

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Here's what I want robots to do: 1) Wash my dishes, dry them and put them away completely automatically. 2) Wash and dry my clothes, fold them and put them away completely automatically. These two things would save me hours of work per week. FoldiMate simply isn't even close to being good enough, but I'd be willing to spend about that much for a robot that could do #2. I can vacuum my floor by myself and greet people…

How about a dishwasher that holds all your dishes, and the dishes just stay in there? Eliminate the step of putting them in cabinets.

Unless you eat in the cabinet, the dishes won't stay there.

Re: CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work

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I’ve thought about getting like 5 and replacing all cabinets. A lower end dishwasher is about the same as a custom cabinet $150-$300).

Assuming an average repair rate of one fault every five years, you'll be needing to service or replace one of those dishwashing cabinets every single year.

Not quite. You would not quintuple your dishwashing usage, so you wouldn’t expect to quintuple your service requirements.

But double, that I would believe.

Re: CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work

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1) Get two dishwashers. Alternate them clean/dirty. Think of them as self-washing cabinets from sci-fi. 2) Get a laundry service or maid service. Save thousands of dollars.

I doubt the dual dishwasher strategy works, as it’s unlikely that the clean dishwasher will get completely emptied and you’ll end up with both washers with dishes you want but sometimes mixed with dirty dishes.

guess you could just clean the clean dishes again
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