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Re: LinkedIn is ignoring user settings

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Post by jopsen »

chimen wrote: post #30

2 months ago I signed up for a 30 day trial to search for people to hire and then 140 eu/mo if I decide to continue using it. Of course I forgot to stop it (they were pretty quiet also) and they charged me 1400+ eu for a full year because...why not - no refunds (that's what their page says). I know, I know...should have read the whole shebang. Lost 1400 euros for something I didn't really use. I was about to pay for…

In the EU they have to write these things upfront in big letters. I doubt this is legal..

You should file a complaint with you consumer protection agency. And ask you bank to cancel the payment, just call it fraud.

I know, it's easy to feel like you were being stupid. But they are intentionally preying in you, it's not by accident, it's by design. That IMO makes it fraud, fight back.

Re: LinkedIn is ignoring user settings

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Post by jopsen »

Feniks wrote: post #125
denzil_correa wrote: post #75

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I think it's high time to reign this practice. All services should explicitly ask before extension. Some people may want to waive such a "request to continue" off but customers must explicitly sign such a waiver. In general, "continue without ask" is a highly unethical practice at the very least.

Already done. Sadly Linked In adheres to US law and not Dutch/EU consumer rights. I have no faith any US administration will ever do anything good for its citizens but keep fighting the fight.

Do they? If they do business in the EU they are within reach, are they not?

Re: LinkedIn is ignoring user settings

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Post by rabboRubble »

alextheparrot wrote: post #131
Ixio wrote: post #119

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Mine also let's you chose a maximum amount that can be charged to the temporary card number. I usually add 10% or 20% extra to the expected amount so that unexpected taxes or shipping costs don't block the whole transaction. I really love the feeling of safety that I get from chosing the max amount, being sure that I won't be overcharged.

I love the points I get from my current cards, but what card is this actually? This sounds like a really killer card I’d use frequently for these use cases.

US market here... Citi card. For many reasons, I loathe Citi and would like to drop using them, but I keep this card for this one feature.

Re: LinkedIn is ignoring user settings

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Post by jopsen »

tialaramex wrote: post #150
oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #74

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What's annoying is that it's difficult to be a 'good' company in this environment. Ours offers a completely free trial of our service, no obligation or sneaky practises whatsoever. It is what it says it is: a trial. Customers find it difficult to believe we're not going to stealth-charge them, even though we take no payment details, so there's no way we possibly could. A trial that automatically turns into a paid sub…

Some (all?) EU countries say you can't use the word "free" for this type of shenanigans. My employer went through meticulously removing the word "free" and surprise, surprise once you tell customers what the real situation is the flow of new sign ups slows considerably.

I love EU consumer protection efforts...

There are so many shady business practices, and I love it when the EU fights back :)

Re: LinkedIn is ignoring user settings

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Post by pasbesoin »

Years ago, LinkedIn's early behavior caused me to avoid them. I can't say anything's changed.

I wonder what I'll do if/when I need to engage in a "traditional" job search. There's no way I want to let them into my life, professional nor otherwise.

As for the ongoing "networking" aspect: It reminds me all too much of the "can you do something for me" networking permeating the traditional job search. I've met a minority of really helpful people and generous spirit, in the past, in that context. But, it's individuals you get to know, personally; the proforma data exchanges are mostly just part of the routine and are at best a pre-cursor to those few real connections.

I can't see LinkedIn or its like ever "algorithmizing" that. Though, like I said, I don't have experience with it.

TL;DR: If I'm not a networking cynic, I'm a pragmatist. And with the way LinkedIn has spammed me, because one of my friends once touched their property, however briefly and/or indirectly, I'm not very optimistic their model matched my experience of what actually works and is useful.

And, I don't want their cooties.

Re: LinkedIn is ignoring user settings

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Post by mikeash »

Ixio wrote: post #119
ddebernardy wrote: post #116

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That's awesome, but it unfortunately won't help when a company charges for a full year in advance like LinkedIn does.

Mine also let's you chose a maximum amount that can be charged to the temporary card number. I usually add 10% or 20% extra to the expected amount so that unexpected taxes or shipping costs don't block the whole transaction. I really love the feeling of safety that I get from chosing the max amount, being sure that I won't be overcharged.

I found out the hard way that my bank added 10% extra for the reasons you mention. I ended up getting ripped off for a smallish amount on a big transaction because of this.

Re: LinkedIn is ignoring user settings

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Post by demarq »

asdfgadsfgasfdg wrote: post #35
demarq wrote: post #26

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most people are likely to know how to get to linked in, but your webserver... not so much.

Really? I think most people still know how to go to a website (they might go there by googling the url but that is another matter).

one thing to know, another not to have to know

Re: LinkedIn is ignoring user settings

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Post by JBlue42 »

nothrabannosir wrote: post #167
JBlue42 wrote: post #134

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Same happened to me a while back when trying out Pro. I went to cancel it and they charged it a day prior to the day I was supposed to cancel on.

If this ever happens again : call your credit card company for a chargeback. The ball will be in their court to prove the charge was fair, which they will never be able to do. Plus they get fined for the chargeback itself (“chargeback fee”). And, if it happens too often, their cc premiums go up. Triple win! If someone messes with your CC, call your bank immediately. Chargebacks are a powerful tool. Use them.

Thanks. I did get it resolved at the time via what was said about sending a vehement email but yes, as much as I have issues w/ how credit companies operate, there are some good consumer protections these days.

Re: LinkedIn is ignoring user settings

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Post by demarq »

hedora wrote: post #33
demarq wrote: post #26

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most people are likely to know how to get to linked in, but your webserver... not so much.

Point taken, though my GitHub page is right under LinkedIn for the common spelling of my name on unbubbled google search. Also, you can figure out the right spelling by skimming the top ten of the other spelling’s results (oddly, LinkedIn is the top hit for both spellings). I mostly just crosslink across reputable, indexable domains and make sure the same keywords show up everywhere that’s possible. :-) But, yeah, no…

> common spelling of my name on unbubbled google search

I think there is a misunderstanding here. Things work the other way around. People do not seek you, linked in takes you to them.

A recruiter more often is looking for people with your skillset, than looking for you specifically.

In other words they are not typing in your name into a search engine, they are typing "aws architect python" etc.

If they were seeking you specifically, they probably already know enough about you and will just get to emailing you directly.

Re: LinkedIn is ignoring user settings

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Post by bigbugbag »

ddebernardy wrote: post #116
rabboRubble wrote: post #112

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My credit card company offers a way to generate a one-time credit card number so that I can safely trial a service and have the monthly charges stop after one month. If I want to continue the service, I can provide my real static credit card number.

That's awesome, but it unfortunately won't help when a company charges for a full year in advance like LinkedIn does.

yes it does, the one time use credit card number comes with an amount of money.

When I order a 20€ item, I generate a credit card number valid for a single use of 20€. If the merchant tries to charge 19.99€ or 21€ or any different amount it will be rejected (and the merchant may have to pay penalty for payment being rejected).

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