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What It Felt Like in Hawaii When Warning of an In-Bound Missile Arrived

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Re: What It Felt Like in Hawaii When Warning of an In-Bound Missile Arrived

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I'm not a member of the church I'm atheist, but if things were going horribly wrong LDS would be high on my list of people to be around.

Pro: A bunch of them are nutty doomsday preppers, with a lot of food supplies in their basements. Con: The polygamy, child abuse, and endless fast and testimony meetings get kinda old after a while.

Mormons stopped practicing polygamy in 1890.

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Pro: A bunch of them are nutty doomsday preppers, with a lot of food supplies in their basements. Con: The polygamy, child abuse, and endless fast and testimony meetings get kinda old after a while.

> polygamy, child abuse, and endless fast and testimony meetings Speaking anecdotally about my experiences in Oregon with Mormon friends, this feels like a gross misrepresentation. I haven't seen any of these situations pop up, and certainly not in any way that would cause it to be systemic.

Polygamy was tongue-in-cheek, they of course only practice spiritual polygamy these days, since it's illegal.

Worthiness interviews are absolutely systemic though. You might not think it's child abuse for an adult man, a "bishop", to have one-on-one interviews with 11-14yo children asking them if they masturbate, but I do.

Fast and testimony meetings are of course systemic, every first Sunday of the month. Their horror is more of a roll-your-eyes extreme boredom kind, though.

Re: What It Felt Like in Hawaii When Warning of an In-Bound Missile Arrived

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Hawaii does not seem like a plausible target for a nuclear missile.

Why not? Until recently it was one of the few places North Korea could reasonably expect to reach.

No, because the DPRK can't even do reentry right, let alone actually fit a nuke on a missile, for all of those huge swaths of people assuming it meant a nuclear attack. Regardless, it is uncontroversial that aiming at a target like Hawaii and actually hitting it is at this time beyond the technical means of the DPRK.

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Western people are largely indoctrinated with the idea of life being sacred and the necessity to protect it all costs; many Asian cultures are much more matter-of-fact about death as the worldview is more cyclical than teleological and reincarnation is quietly assumed as the natural order of things.

Baloney. Bad clustering conclusion in your imagination.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say other than that you disagree.

Re: What It Felt Like in Hawaii When Warning of an In-Bound Missile Arrived

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Pro: A bunch of them are nutty doomsday preppers, with a lot of food supplies in their basements. Con: The polygamy, child abuse, and endless fast and testimony meetings get kinda old after a while.

Mormons stopped practicing polygamy in 1890.

How was that decided?

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Perhaps because they understand the reality of the situation better? Look, almost everyone gets the situation with North Korea wrong. NK has exactly one deterrent from being invaded, and that is a ton of very boring, very conventional artillery that is within firing distance of Seoul. In the case of NK being invaded, they would immediately start shelling Seoul and trying to reduce it to rubble. If you start evacuatin…

I think this is mostly right, but there is still some room for concern. First off, those anti-missile defenses have never been tested in anger and we can't be 100% sure they will work. (I'd love to think we have an effective boost-phase defense in place, but I gather that's not going to be a reality for a few years yet, at best.) Second, what I think Kim really wants to use those nukes for, besides leverage in the sa…

What would be the point of arming SK over having a nuclear sub in the area? Would anyone really believe SK could launch them of their own volition? Surely they would be nothing more than US bombs in SK soil.

Re: What It Felt Like in Hawaii When Warning of an In-Bound Missile Arrived

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Must be a terrible thing, if anything good can come out of this I hope it alerts people to the horrors of nuclear war. I am puzzled by why we speak so much about global warming but almost nobody talks about nuclear war.

Global warming is not remotely as dangerous as nuclear war. Sure it will make crops fails some places, cause water shortage for some millions, force people to move off the coast etc. But it will not kill billions of people. Nuclear war could do that.

As long as the US and Russia stockpile huge quantities of nuclear weapons the whole world is in jeopardy. The number of times nuclear war has almost gotten triggered due to mistakes like this one in Hawaii is scary to think of.

How many human errors or hardware/software failures need to happen before one day, an actual launch of nuclear missiles happen by default?

These weapons are far too dangerous to stockpile in such huge quantities. There should be a push to reduce the stockpile to something like 20-30 missiles.

It isn't hard to imagine a president in the style of Donald Trump, acting irrational and making a rash and stupid mistake which puts the world on fire.

Re: What It Felt Like in Hawaii When Warning of an In-Bound Missile Arrived

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post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not a member of the church I'm atheist, but if things were going horribly wrong LDS would be high on my list of people to be around.

Pro: A bunch of them are nutty doomsday preppers, with a lot of food supplies in their basements. Con: The polygamy, child abuse, and endless fast and testimony meetings get kinda old after a while.

What's wrong with polygamy?

Re: What It Felt Like in Hawaii When Warning of an In-Bound Missile Arrived

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post #121

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I would think basic knowledge of electrical engineering, solar & battery technology, radio, and mesh networking would make you pretty handy. Front end developers will be the first ones in the stew pot.

For most developers there is no overlap with what they know about software and the things listed above.

Hence the stew pot ;)
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