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What It Felt Like in Hawaii When Warning of an In-Bound Missile Arrived

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Post by woolvalley »

acqq wrote: post #203
McKayDavis wrote: post #102

I live on O'ahu and was holding my phone when the emergency alert came in at 8:07am. I yelled "Oh my God!" and ran to show my wife the message. I've run through this scenario a few times in my head before and I knew every minute was critical -- so I went into action mode immediately. I told my two kids to get dressed now because we were leaving in exactly 1 minute. The reason we were leaving is our house is single-wa…

> cell phone charger I don’t think it would work in the given scenario?

Solar?

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Post by pmoriarty »

maxerickson wrote: post #4
tomalpha wrote: post #3

I always struggle with news interviews that go along the lines of “So you’re entire family’s been killed. How do you feel? ”. I realise it’s easy to lose the impact on people’s lives behind a few words in a headline, and maybe I’m just too much of a cynic. Pleasingly (to me) this article’s focus on feelings has some real meaning: namely the widespread panic that was caused by the false alarm. (Like other folks in the…

I don't struggle with those interviews at all, they are outrageous and shameful. There's an argument to be made about conveying the scope of a tragedy to the public but it's also pretty clear that cameras are being shoved in people's faces.

I feel exactly the opposite.

It's critical that the real impact of death and destruction be effectively conveyed in the media. All too often it's trivialized, sugar-coated, or made to seem like a video game.

People need to realize how devastating such violence is, instead of viewing it as a game or a joke, if there is to be any hope of reducing its incidence.

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Post by JBlue42 »

tomalpha wrote: post #73
sdrothrock wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm also in Japan, and I have a pretty serious go-bag for this kind of thing. It's because of political tensions for me; we're in spitting distance of North Korea.

Thanks for the reply. Living on the (sort of) other side of the world, in the UK, I don't feel under immediate or direct threat from current tensions. I am truly thankful that, for my generation at least, that this is the case. It's easy to forget, or minimise the experiences of people much closer to current political tensions and IMHO healthy to be reminded of them periodically.

We worry about the big, less likely risks than the common, more likely. In a major UK city you might become a victim of a terrorist attack - limited in scope but played out far more in the media - vs getting hit as a pedestrian by a car or a car accident.

In the US, we've completely gone down the way of sucking on the fear teat vs the actual dangers in our reality (cars, guns, heart disease, etc) and pay a pretty penny for it, whether security theater at the airport or our current political environment.

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Post by FooHentai »

jonnycomputer wrote: post #36
IIAOPSW wrote: post #17

I'm currently living in Japan. So obviously I have a plan for nuclear war. First, I'm going to press send on the doomsday draft which is sitting in my e-mail. Second, I'm going to go to youtube and play "We all go together" by Tom Leher. Third, I got a bottle sitting in my desk that I'm going to pop open. Presumably I'll be in the office at the time so one final round with the coworkers. The people in this article se…

I'm guessing that you don't have children. And no, your plan isn't as good as any other; its just one that suits your own fatalistic attitude toward the risks involved.

"I have decided that if I'm ever about to crash my car I will unclip my seatbelt and steer violently to the side. My plan is as good as any other plan"

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Post by rdiddly »

hateduser2 wrote: post #206
rdiddly wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you're saying this person is worth less than you, then the plan suited to them is indeed as good as the one suited to you. A few popular assumptions that aren't necessarily true: Living is always better than dying. Your actions have an effect on the outcome. You can do it. People should always do what they should. It matters.

Why do you call those things assumptions? That says more about you than the people you claim are assuming these things.

What's your point?

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Post by khazhoux »

newfoundglory wrote: post #208
IIAOPSW wrote: post #17

I'm currently living in Japan. So obviously I have a plan for nuclear war. First, I'm going to press send on the doomsday draft which is sitting in my e-mail. Second, I'm going to go to youtube and play "We all go together" by Tom Leher. Third, I got a bottle sitting in my desk that I'm going to pop open. Presumably I'll be in the office at the time so one final round with the coworkers. The people in this article se…

But if you get a nuclear war warning that isn’t real...I’m curious if there’s anything damaging in that doomsday email you have?

"""

Dear Boss: Fuck you.

Dear Girlfriend: I'm sleeping with your sister. Sorry.

Dear Neighbor: I was being sarcastic every time I said 'Have a nice day.'

Peace out,

IIAOPSW

"""

EDIT: Please ignore my previous email! My phone seems to have a virus, and I am going to sue the phone company for allowing such a thing! Boss, can I have my job back? Stacy, will you please answer my texts??? Neighbor: Well that one was true, I was in fact being sarcastic when I said "have a nice day"

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Post by tambienben »

sheepmullet wrote: post #238
tambienben wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They can be assumptions because life is complex & sometimes people tell themselves convenient lies to make themselves feel better. It depends on the circumstances.

Perhaps the convenient lies are the opposite?

Like I said, it really depends on the circumstances.

Sometimes having control over your fight-or-flight reaction is better for you, personally, given your value system, than say trampeling fellow coworkers in a panic on your way out the door.

Don't judge too harshly people who don't share your starry-eyed view of the world. Let them have their peace if they're so resolved.

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Post by spikels »

Clubber wrote: post #101
ourmandave wrote: post #40

Nearly forty minutes passed before a second message went out: “There is no missile threat or danger to the State of Hawaii. ...“It was a mistake made during a standard procedure at the changeover of a shift, and an employee pushed the wrong button.” I've seen some shitty Admin Panels, but somebody "pushed the wrong button" and an end-of-your-world false alarm was going off for 40 minutes?! WTF?

>I've seen some shitty Admin Panels, but somebody "pushed the wrong button" and an end-of-your-world false alarm was going off for 40 minutes?! WTF? Ya, it's the same panel that is installed in the White House. :) Now that's a comforting thought.

This is clearly on the State of Hawaii not the US government.

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Post by pmoriarty »

10dpd wrote: post #8
bvod wrote: post #7

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Post by peter303 »

You know how people born before 1985 felt when there was the ever present global thermonuclear war threat. We used to practice duck-and-cover in grade school. Woulnt help if very near a bomb explosion, but a little helpful from distant blasts. Plus there were near misses of a launch in 1962 and 1983 on news. Plus several other secreat incidents revealed years later. Contributed to hippie malaise that boober parents were fucking up the world.
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