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What It Felt Like in Hawaii When Warning of an In-Bound Missile Arrived

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Re: What It Felt Like in Hawaii When Warning of an In-Bound Missile Arrived

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Post by totalZero »

chiefalchemist wrote: post #173
CocaKoala wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're aware that a lot of people are upset about the sentiment expressed and not the word used to express it, correct?

You're aware that the alleged sentiment of a word pales in comparison to actual actions that need no bias interpretation in order to be upsetting to anyone with a moral compass, correct? Put another way: Stick and stones and MIC drones are breaking non-white bones and you're worried about the alleged sentimate of a word? Turn off the MSM and get a new less rose coloured filter.

What does your argument even mean?

I'm reading it as "since there are drone strikes, it is not worth criticizing an American president for referring to poorer nations as 'shitholes'."

Why can't you say "we want fewer drone strikes, and also more dignified and respectable leaders"?

How are the two issues of drones and Trump's foul comment linked in any way?

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Post by mter »

matte_black wrote: post #113
0xdada wrote: post #32

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I don't think it's as bad as you think. Check out this thread: https://twitter.com/lcamtuf/status/952265416289632256 . If shit hits the fan and you end up surviving, your help in the aftermath can be crucial.

What software development skills will be most useful in a post-apocalyptic world?

We make enough money to live in the suburbs instead of the city and can afford a house where we can store food, water, books (the dead tree kind), tools and firearms.

If you put a machine/wood working shop in your garage + you do your own home repairs you can learn all kinds of useful skills.

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Post by ianburrell »

macintux wrote: post #80
Retric wrote: post #24

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It takes far less to be an effective fallout shelter than you might think. If you look at lethal ranges on H-Bombs you see incredible destruction, but if you're protected for the first 1hour after a blast you can be surprisingly close to the blast and live.

I’m less concerned about the blast than what it would take to keep me alive and reasonably healthy after. I’d like my fallout shelter to include some food and water. Some used to: I distinctly remember boxes and boxes of crackers in some underground shelter as a child.

Fallout shelters only need to be used for 12-48 hours. People can survive without food or water for that long. Definitely better to have supplies, but proper shelter is more important for fallout.

Re: What It Felt Like in Hawaii When Warning of an In-Bound Missile Arrived

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Post by gtcode »

McKayDavis wrote: post #102

I live on O'ahu and was holding my phone when the emergency alert came in at 8:07am. I yelled "Oh my God!" and ran to show my wife the message. I've run through this scenario a few times in my head before and I knew every minute was critical -- so I went into action mode immediately. I told my two kids to get dressed now because we were leaving in exactly 1 minute. The reason we were leaving is our house is single-wa…

808-861-6666 happened while on the north shore

Re: What It Felt Like in Hawaii When Warning of an In-Bound Missile Arrived

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Post by stordoff »

ourmandave wrote: post #40

Nearly forty minutes passed before a second message went out: “There is no missile threat or danger to the State of Hawaii. ...“It was a mistake made during a standard procedure at the changeover of a shift, and an employee pushed the wrong button.” I've seen some shitty Admin Panels, but somebody "pushed the wrong button" and an end-of-your-world false alarm was going off for 40 minutes?! WTF?

It remaining like that for 40 minutes is a bad sign, but it being easy to issue a warning seems reasonable (the counter-story is "No warning of the genuine threat was issued, due to the process for doing so being too involved/difficult").

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Post by chiefalchemist »

totalZero wrote: post #181
chiefalchemist wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're aware that the alleged sentiment of a word pales in comparison to actual actions that need no bias interpretation in order to be upsetting to anyone with a moral compass, correct? Put another way: Stick and stones and MIC drones are breaking non-white bones and you're worried about the alleged sentimate of a word? Turn off the MSM and get a new less rose coloured filter.

What does your argument even mean? I'm reading it as "since there are drone strikes, it is not worth criticizing an American president for referring to poorer nations as 'shitholes'." Why can't you say "we want fewer drone strikes, and also more dignified and respectable leaders"? How are the two issues of drones and Trump's foul comment linked in any way?

Perhaps you need to get back to my original comment and then drill down. The "sentiment" is obvious. I see no reason to repeat what was already stating the obvious.

In short: Actions speak louder than words. And if "shithole" is going to raise a ruckus, then where is the ruckus for the shitholes our actions are creating? Why is there silence for death and outrage for a word? How is that not hypocritical? The fact that you're wanting to push back only reaffirms my point. That is: We. Are. Lost. And at the mercy of a compass-less MSM.

I hope that helps. Issue closed.

Re: What It Felt Like in Hawaii When Warning of an In-Bound Missile Arrived

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Post by aoeusnth1 »

gtcode wrote: post #186
McKayDavis wrote: post #102

I live on O'ahu and was holding my phone when the emergency alert came in at 8:07am. I yelled "Oh my God!" and ran to show my wife the message. I've run through this scenario a few times in my head before and I knew every minute was critical -- so I went into action mode immediately. I told my two kids to get dressed now because we were leaving in exactly 1 minute. The reason we were leaving is our house is single-wa…

808-861-6666 happened while on the north shore

What happened on the North Shore?

Re: What It Felt Like in Hawaii When Warning of an In-Bound Missile Arrived

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Post by mturmon »

rectangletangle wrote: post #140
macintux wrote: post #85

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I think many people consider nuclear war an end of the world event. Working hard to survive just to be left adrift in the ashes of civilization with likely long-term health effects seems counterproductive to some of us.

The US/Russia/France have already detonated thousands of full power nuclear weapons all across the globe, primarily for testing. Although major cities would be ash, with millions lost in the senseless conflict, life would go on. You'd likely only have health problems if you had acute exposure to the blast. If you live somewhere irrelivant, radiation exposure won't be much more of a concern than it already is currentl…

Estimates of the loss of life in just Russia and China in the first 6 months after a nuclear exchange: 380 million. Source: RAND (http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2018/01/18/daniel-ellsberg-n...).

"Moscow alone was targeted with at least eighty nuclear weapons, and every Russian city with a population greater than 25,000 would be hit by at least one."

And that was the December 1960 plan.

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