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Re: LinkedIn is ignoring user settings

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Post by pmlnr »

kevinconaway wrote: post #36

The issue at hand is how LinkedIn defines “public”. From the public profile settings page the author linked: > Select what shows via searches on Bing, Google, etc. as well as on public profile badges and permitted services like Outlook, when the viewers are not logged-in members or did not bind their LinkedIn account to their account on such services. Its not anyone who isn’t logged in but rather a subset of unauthen…

The exact wording is "Make my public profile visible to everyone". They need to re-word that sentence for certain, this way, it's not true.

Re: LinkedIn is ignoring user settings

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Post by stareatgoats »

astura wrote: post #40
IgorPartola wrote: post #6

I deleted my LinkedIn profile years ago. The amount of spam I was getting from them was ridiculous (the owner of the pizza joint next door wants to add you, etc.). The final straw was when someone pointed out to me that unless you keep it up to date, it reflects poorly on you. And I had no interest in doing that.

I've never had a LinkedIn account and I still get spam from them. The "so and so wants to connect with you on LinkedIn."

Technically this is because Linkedin asks to be given access to a user's contacts (phone, email or otherwise) and then displays the contacts as people possible to connect to, regardless of whether the contacts are members already or not. No doubt some manager with shady ethics thought this a very clever way to expand the number of users.

Re: LinkedIn is ignoring user settings

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Post by delinka »

chimen wrote: post #51
WrtCdEvrydy wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Call your CC, tell them they charged you incorrectly, include the page saying 140/month.

It's not about that. I'm the CEO. I'm sure it's somewhat my mistake because they wouldn't risk lawsuits for shady tactics. Probably a 0.8px text in gray somewhere on that page saying I'll get charged yearly and not monthly.

"...they wouldn't risk lawsuits for shady tactics."

This sounds like you don't do business often (with US corporations?) They're hoping more people like you just let it ride. That's how they're making money.

Hit them where it hurts - have the bank perform a chargeback. Enough of that happens, and their rates to accept credit cards goes up.

Re: LinkedIn is ignoring user settings

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Post by IAmGraydon »

chimen wrote: post #30

2 months ago I signed up for a 30 day trial to search for people to hire and then 140 eu/mo if I decide to continue using it. Of course I forgot to stop it (they were pretty quiet also) and they charged me 1400+ eu for a full year because...why not - no refunds (that's what their page says). I know, I know...should have read the whole shebang. Lost 1400 euros for something I didn't really use. I was about to pay for…

Shady? You signed up for a trial, didn't ready the terms, didn't cancel, and they charged you as they said they would. How is that shady? They did exactly what they said they would.

When you sign up for the free trial, it literally says right there on the checkout page "Total after free trial: ($99.95 x 12 months) $1,199.40". Beyond that, they email you 7 days before the trial ends to warn you.

Re: LinkedIn is ignoring user settings

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Post by NegativeLatency »

fartcannon wrote: post #50
chimen wrote: post #30

2 months ago I signed up for a 30 day trial to search for people to hire and then 140 eu/mo if I decide to continue using it. Of course I forgot to stop it (they were pretty quiet also) and they charged me 1400+ eu for a full year because...why not - no refunds (that's what their page says). I know, I know...should have read the whole shebang. Lost 1400 euros for something I didn't really use. I was about to pay for…

Was this before or after Microsoft bought them? It would be extremely unpleasant if that behavior was outwardly supported by Microsoft. Edit: 2 months ago! Microsoft needs to fix LinkedIn. They bought them 6 months ago, if they dont change this dark pattern behvaior, they appear to be sanctioning it.

I suspect management has set some revenue goals for LinkedIn.

People who would otherwise act sensibly can talk themselves into some shady stuff when there's money and career advancement at stake.

Re: LinkedIn is ignoring user settings

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Post by praneshp »

tnolet wrote: post #37
lordnacho wrote: post #25

LinkedIn is a weird, weird place. There's always people wanting to add me, but then they mostly don't introduce themselves. Even half of the recruiters who add me don't do an intro. How is that networking? The articles seem pretty low quality. Sorry to say it, but a lot of them seem to be written as a form of homework, as in "you should write something to be seen". There's rarely any insightful comments on news piece…

LinkedIn is going the MySpace way. Total crap “content”, endless amount of people that indeed just want “connect” without intro, reason or anything else than bumping their numbers. Weird thing, I found it pretty useful up to 2 years ago. I guess that’s when the influencers takeover and bullshit blogging began.

God, you should see the number of 20 line posts, each line in a paragraph by itself, about how someone hired someone that others wouldn't. I agree with you about the 2 years/influencers thing.

Re: LinkedIn is ignoring user settings

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Post by crazy2be »

IAmGraydon wrote: post #64
chimen wrote: post #30

2 months ago I signed up for a 30 day trial to search for people to hire and then 140 eu/mo if I decide to continue using it. Of course I forgot to stop it (they were pretty quiet also) and they charged me 1400+ eu for a full year because...why not - no refunds (that's what their page says). I know, I know...should have read the whole shebang. Lost 1400 euros for something I didn't really use. I was about to pay for…

Shady? You signed up for a trial, didn't ready the terms, didn't cancel, and they charged you as they said they would. How is that shady? They did exactly what they said they would. When you sign up for the free trial, it literally says right there on the checkout page "Total after free trial: ($99.95 x 12 months) $1,199.40". Beyond that, they email you 7 days before the trial ends to warn you.

the shady part was that they charged him for a full year after he forgot to cancel, despite quoting the price on a monthly basis when he signed up.

(Also, "free" auto-renew trials like this without refunds are by themselves shady imo)

Re: LinkedIn is ignoring user settings

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Post by na85 »

robinhood wrote: post #43

I've hated Linkedin for years, but what's interesting is to understand why. I think it's a mix of - really, really bad UX resulting in an ugly product - the level of emptiness of the news feed, full of people talking about respectful bosses and good work condition while quoting Steve Jobs (oh, the irony) - seeing people becoming apparently more successful than me (if I have to be honest) - the level of intrusiveness…

What bothers me the most about LinkedIn is how vapid everyone seems to be.

Everone has a job title like 'dynamic individual searching for creative opportunities' when they really mean unemployed. It's like a game where everyone pretends while simultaneously knowing that everyone else is pretending too.

Re: LinkedIn is ignoring user settings

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Post by SilasX »

jdhn wrote: post #49
vanderZwan wrote: post #41

As a UX guy I have noticed so many dumb quirks, tiny inconsistencies and flat-out design errors like: - URLs not being clickable or selectable in many contexts for no good reason - icon positions/sizes being off by a pixel between different pages - if you're typing a message in their mobile app, and the text input field loses focus for whatever reason, everything you typed in so far is erased (this was true a few yea…

Another UX guy here. Right after they did their redesign, I had an initial phone screen where the interviewer asked if I had a portfolio. I told them that it was on my Linkedin profile, and the interviewer said that he had looked there first, but couldn't find it. I knew that I had put it on there, so I went to LinkedIn to see if the recruiter had made a mistake.. About 2 minutes later, I figured out what had happene…

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Re: LinkedIn is ignoring user settings

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Post by frgtpsswrdlame »

IAmGraydon wrote: post #64
chimen wrote: post #30

2 months ago I signed up for a 30 day trial to search for people to hire and then 140 eu/mo if I decide to continue using it. Of course I forgot to stop it (they were pretty quiet also) and they charged me 1400+ eu for a full year because...why not - no refunds (that's what their page says). I know, I know...should have read the whole shebang. Lost 1400 euros for something I didn't really use. I was about to pay for…

Shady? You signed up for a trial, didn't ready the terms, didn't cancel, and they charged you as they said they would. How is that shady? They did exactly what they said they would. When you sign up for the free trial, it literally says right there on the checkout page "Total after free trial: ($99.95 x 12 months) $1,199.40". Beyond that, they email you 7 days before the trial ends to warn you.

The whole practice of free trials which seamlessly blend into paid service is shady imo. Not counting that they billed him for a whole year.
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