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Alert About Missile Bound for Hawaii Was Sent in Error, Officials Say

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Re: Alert About Missile Bound for Hawaii Was Sent in Error, Officials Say

#41

I've read that it was a human error when someone pushed the wrong button. I feel bad for that person.

Does anyone have any details about EAS/Wireless alert procedures and how one is sent out?

Surely this wasn't one step gone wrong.

Re: Alert About Missile Bound for Hawaii Was Sent in Error, Officials Say

#42

Serious question: where would one seek shelter if that notification were true?

The more underground you are, the better. Shield from those gamma photons! If that ain't an option, jumping into the ocean doesn't seem like such a terrible idea.

> jumping into the ocean doesn't seem like such a terrible idea

That’s a terrible idea. You’d be directly exposed when at the surface and end up inhaling fall-out.

Re: Alert About Missile Bound for Hawaii Was Sent in Error, Officials Say

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I woke up to this this morning on the island of Oahu. People running around on the street freaking out and police / fire engine sirens going off. Everyone cheered when the “False alarm” SMS came through across the phones. Secure your networks people - this electronic psyops stuff is real.

Apparently it was some sort of test gone wrong not a malicious intrusion into an insecure network.

So basically someone left the test tape in the drive again?

https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/nukevault/ebb371/

Re: Alert About Missile Bound for Hawaii Was Sent in Error, Officials Say

#46
A lot of comments making fun of the "duck and cover" advice, but consider this: Many people suffered serious injury from the Chelyabinsk meteor when they went to a window to see the spectacle, not realizing the shock wave would follow a few seconds later and shatter the windows into their faces.

If they had gotten away from the windows and ducked and covered, they would have been fine.

Re: Alert About Missile Bound for Hawaii Was Sent in Error, Officials Say

#47
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody teaches anyone about cover during a nuclear strike anymore. In fact, the concept is frequently mocked as cynical Cold War era propaganda.

The mocking isn't unjustifiable though. I mean the turtle/duck and cover is quite pointless, at least in the case of a nuclear strike (unless you're maybe on the far edge of it, in which case a ditch might save you..and that's big might). In the documentary "Iraq: The Untold Story", the creator shows civilian air raid shelters in Baghdad. They were four stories down, with the upper floors all reinforced concrete. Yet…

Cover is extremely important if you're outside the immediate fireball zone (where you're just going to be vaporized). You shouldn't infer from the fact that bunker busting bombs successfully bust bunkers that attempting to survive a nuclear explosion at some distance from you is pointless.

Re: Alert About Missile Bound for Hawaii Was Sent in Error, Officials Say

#48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The more underground you are, the better. Shield from those gamma photons! If that ain't an option, jumping into the ocean doesn't seem like such a terrible idea.

> jumping into the ocean doesn't seem like such a terrible idea That’s a terrible idea. You’d be directly exposed when at the surface and end up inhaling fall-out.

Of course I was sarcastically implying that you would immediately swim to the mainland

Re: Alert About Missile Bound for Hawaii Was Sent in Error, Officials Say

#50

Any reason why it would take 30+ minutes to rectify the mistake?

Civilian governments would have had to get clarity from a military caught off guard. Something as simple as the appropriate official being in a meeting could introduce delays.
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