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Alert About Missile Bound for Hawaii Was Sent in Error, Officials Say

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Re: Alert About Missile Bound for Hawaii Was Sent in Error, Officials Say

#33

Serious question: where would one seek shelter if that notification were true?

The more underground you are, the better. Shield from those gamma photons!

If that ain't an option, jumping into the ocean doesn't seem like such a terrible idea.

Re: Alert About Missile Bound for Hawaii Was Sent in Error, Officials Say

#34
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody teaches anyone about cover during a nuclear strike anymore. In fact, the concept is frequently mocked as cynical Cold War era propaganda.

The mocking isn't unjustifiable though. I mean the turtle/duck and cover is quite pointless, at least in the case of a nuclear strike (unless you're maybe on the far edge of it, in which case a ditch might save you..and that's big might). In the documentary "Iraq: The Untold Story", the creator shows civilian air raid shelters in Baghdad. They were four stories down, with the upper floors all reinforced concrete. Yet…

Play around with NUKEMAP:

http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

If you are hit directly, you're fucked no matter what. But the fireball has relatively small radius compared to the other zones.

Ducking underneath something solid is to protect you if the building collapses, which is likely to occur in the large air-blast radius. This is much like ducking under a desk in an earthquake.

Cover will save you if you're within the larger thermal radiation radius. Even clothing can be enough to protect you from burns, so any cover you can get is good.

Re: Alert About Missile Bound for Hawaii Was Sent in Error, Officials Say

#37

So either this was a security breach, a human mistake or a psyops/test on a small isolated American population. In the first case, we'll probably only be told about it if they actually make an arrest and the system is patched. The second is an interesting case, we'll come back to. The final one: it was intentional and used to track what happened on the islands, and to also watch that information propagate back to the…

You should check the definition of "affect" and also of "chilling effect." Neither fits here.
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