Earlier quoted context omitted.
For those who can't read any Russian, or never read that short story where this is the punchline essentially, pectopah is pronounced restoran. It only drops the T, basically.
It should be really written in upper case, as PECTOPAH, to match the cyrillic letters better :)
Tea if by sea, cha if by land: Why the world only has two words for tea
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Re: Tea if by sea, cha if by land: Why the world only has two words for tea
#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, and dinner being used for lunch while tea is used for dinner. Not confusing at all.
At least you know where you stand with supper, right?!
Re: Tea if by sea, cha if by land: Why the world only has two words for tea
#103Tea to Japan was certainly not "by land". I know they want to make it into a simple rule, but that's just not as simple as they pretend.
The friendly article notes that both Japan and Korea likely acquired the word long before the Silk Road. Relevant random factoid: it's possible to tell when many Chinese words were imported into Japan based on the pronunciation, which varies based on where the Chinese capital (and hence the ruling class dialect) happened to be. See "Onyomi" under https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanji .
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#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
And the close neighbors of Romania we say "ceainic" to kettle which does come from the root word "ceai".
In Southern Romania we tend to use "ibric" more, which comes directly from Turkish.
I recently heard from a Turk that ibrik in Turkish today refers only to the small bucket used for washing oneself in Middle Eastern toilets. For the pot used to brew coffee, they say cezve.
Re: Tea if by sea, cha if by land: Why the world only has two words for tea
#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
To be clear, "tea" in almost all cases doesn't imply the meal will be served with tea. It's just a name for the evening meal in the north of England.
As a kid in Sheffield I understood it as 'dinner' was your hot meal whenever you might have it, and tea was a lighter meal. So many kids had a hot meal at school (school dinner) and then went home for tea.
In South Wales they talk about "cooked dinner" which is a roasted meat meal, usually chicken for Sunday lunch, but can be any time of the week. Presumably that harks back to families having lots of uncooked meals (through poverty).
Re: Tea if by sea, cha if by land: Why the world only has two words for tea
#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
For those who can't read any Russian, or never read that short story where this is the punchline essentially, pectopah is pronounced restoran. It only drops the T, basically.
It should be really written in upper case, as PECTOPAH, to match the cyrillic letters better :)
Re: Tea if by sea, cha if by land: Why the world only has two words for tea
#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
Lithuanians call tea as "arbata", and it's boiled in "arbatinis". It also has nothing to do with "herbs". AFAIK, there is no reference to the word tea or cha anywhere in terms of tea.
Clearly, arbata comes from the same herbal tea origin, just the h got dropped somewhere along the way, herb -> arba, tea -> ta
Re: Tea if by sea, cha if by land: Why the world only has two words for tea
#108In London, "Char" is also slang for tea as in "a cup of char". Looks like there is some overlap. http://www.rmg.co.uk/discover/explore/cup-char
Re: Tea if by sea, cha if by land: Why the world only has two words for tea
#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
Lithuanians call tea as "arbata", and it's boiled in "arbatinis". It also has nothing to do with "herbs". AFAIK, there is no reference to the word tea or cha anywhere in terms of tea.
Clearly, arbata comes from the same herbal tea origin, just the h got dropped somewhere along the way, herb -> arba, tea -> ta
Re: Tea if by sea, cha if by land: Why the world only has two words for tea
#110Almost the same goes for the word Restaurant. Everywhere in the world it's almost the same - except in Russia it is pectopah! :)