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Re: MacBook Pro? No

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Post by pfranz »

buildbot wrote: post #56

Devils Advocate Response to this: If the keyboard is failing on a 2016, take advantage of Apple's stores and get it replaced under warranty and with far less hassle than say, Dell with an XPS 15 and failed motherboard. (From experience with both.) Battery life is typically quoted at 5 hours doing something relatively intensive, and 6-7 in general for the 15 inch. 4 hours must be heavy, high CPU and GPU use. I'm not s…

> Ports is a tricky one.

I agree with you here. I looked around at PC laptops and all of them had a combination of ports that felt like a compromise.

> The charging light and other power supply issues are USB-C trade-offs.

Personally, I'm bummed the battery indicator lights are gone as well as the charging indicator. I don't think they had to ditch the charging light because of USB-C because third parties are doing it[1]. The charging USB-C that ships with MacBook Pros is already a beefier, more expensive USB-C cable than the data-only ones.

[1] https://www.moshi.com/usb-c-charge-cable

Re: MacBook Pro? No

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Post by coldtea »

donjoe wrote: post #102
latch wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lenovo has a pretty awful history of security / privacy issues. For me, it feels like giving them money [1], is saying that I'm ok with that behaviour (which I'm not) [1] I know you said you bought off ebay, but I don't think that distinction matters

Is Apple any better regarding security issues? No doubt they try regarding privacy - but security? Just to leave a reminder: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208315

Security holes, yes, MacOS they have their share. Actual security issues that are not trojans where users are duped to install them themselves, not much (if any).

Sample of one, but it's been 15+ years, 10 versions of OSX/macOS, and not a single malware (even with getting stuff from torrents etc). Can't say the same for my Windows boxes.

Re: MacBook Pro? No

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

thomasfoster96 wrote: post #62
craigc wrote: post #27

So strange. I posted this exact site hours ago and now it is on the top of hacker news. Not sure how that happened since it is the same url. I guess the algorithm doesn’t like me. In any case, I have been a Mac user my entire life. I too have one of the 2016 MacBook Pros and I have to say I hate it. I previously owned an iBook, two PowerBooks, a MacBook Pro, and a MacBook Air. This is by far the worst Apple laptop I…

> What good is a computer that you can’t type on. One spec of dust or one crumb and your keyboard is done. My space bar sometimes inserts two spaces and sometimes inserts spaces between letters. Is there a laptop where this isn’t a problem?

Anecdotal I know but my wife uses my Thinkpad in the kitchen whilst baking and it's fine.

Re: MacBook Pro? No

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Post by tannhaeuser »

a_c wrote: post #15

I'm on an early 2015 MBP. Probably my last MBP. What recommendations have we?

Dell XPS 13 or 15. Some will recommend ThinkPads, but in a side-by-side comparison two years ago, the XPS 13 won hands down against the Carbon X1 they had on display at the shop, for its much better display alone (and it's cheaper, too). ThinkPads keyboards are held in high esteem, but I found the XPS keyboard to work better for me. Didn't get a chance to play with the retro ThinkPads with old-school, non-chiclet keyboards, though. Dell last week introduced the XPS 13 developer edition with Ubuntu 16.04 preinstalled and officially supported. That would be the notebook I'd be buying in a heartbeat if mine stopped working or if I needed 16gb RAM (combination of 16gb and non-glare screen is only available in EU for now it seems).

Re: MacBook Pro? No

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Post by otempomores »

jacobolus wrote: post #81
GordonS wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting. The 2017 Macbook Pro is the first Macbook I've ever had, and I find the keyboard terrible . I can't put my finger on it exactly, but I just struggle to type on it, often finding letters missing from the words I've typed, and the keys never being where my fingers expect them to be. The key travel just feels wrong too. By comparison, I also have a very cheap Asus netbook (13", I think) - it was about £100…

How long have you had it? What’s your typing style? Finding where the key tops are is largely down to familiarity/practice, and it’s possible your netbook had smaller-than-standard key spacing, which then might take some time to readjust to the standard key spacing. I’m sorry Apple made the key tops bigger and the gaps between keys smaller on this version though, as smaller key tops with wider spaces between tend to…

A man orders a suit a tailor. The tailor measures up and makes the suit- reinviting the customer. He dresses it on ib front of the shops mirror.

'I m sorry but it doesn't fit around the neck'

'Just tilt your head slightly'

'it is to narrow at the waist'

'Well you certainly could need some exercise. Try to take this yoga pose'

'Now its too short around the arm, im sorry but-'

'You shouldn't be, movie stars have worren this type of cut- just assume the pose Brando has on this photo.. theire its perfect'

The man pays and leaves the shop. Under a lantern down the street he passes two others.

'Did you see that guy? Poor cripple..'

'.. but the cloths on this guy. Excellent tailor!'

Moral of the story - if it needs defense speeches it sucks big time.

Re: MacBook Pro? No

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Post by majewsky »

mosselman wrote: post #110

a. Why do people have a need to write blog posts about why they won't buy a macbook? What do we care? I won't buy most things I see offers for: certain soda drinks, instant coffee, etc, etc, etc, etc b. Why do these posts get so high on the HN main page? What is the value? Is it just nerdy conversation and, in this case, Apple shaming just like we do with celebrity gossip? Do we feel like giddy children telling stori…

> a.

Because, as opposed to a soda or cup of coffee, he paid a significant amount of money for a device that turned out to be a bad investment to him. 2$ misinvested are nothing to write home about; 2000$ misinvested are.

Same reason why there are tons of car reviews and tech reviews, but not a lot of soda or coffee reviews.

> b.

Because Apple knows how to appeal to people emotionally.

Re: MacBook Pro? No

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Post by majewsky »

usaphp wrote: post #67
suresk wrote: post #48

My personal laptop is a 2012 15" Retina MBP, and my work one is a new 15" with the TouchBar. This is, by far, the longest I've kept a laptop and I'm sorta dreading having to replace it (it is having some reliability/battery issues lately) for pretty much the reasons the author described - they match my experience with the new MBPs. Admittedly, a lot of the things come down to personal preference. I've met a lot of pe…

“but I hate hate hate the arrow key configuration on the new ones)” Not sure why they removed empty space on top of left and right arrows, but this change had the biggest affect on my performance while writing code, I used that blank space to navigate my way around the keyboard, now it’s gone I keep pressing wrong keys. They did the same on the new magic keyboard as well, I hate the guts of it.

hjkl forever

Re: MacBook Pro? No

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Post by jpkeisala »

pavlov wrote: post #25
plasma wrote: post #13

I've been considering buying a new MacBook Pro, but the advice I hear is to just wait for the next model (in a few months?) and hope that it doesn't have all its USB ports removed or broken keyboard.

The next model won’t change the port layout or the keyboard. Apple just doesn’t work like that. A redesign of the MBP isn’t due for years, and no amount of negative feedback will change that. (Look at the Mac Pro for a concrete example of this.)

Thats true but they might release new Macbook Air that does not suck. I would stay away from MBP. I switched to Dell XPS after being 10 years on Macs and I have been happy with it.

Re: MacBook Pro? No

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Post by spacesword »

eecc wrote: post #83

I’m also stuck on an old MacBook Pro model. Can’t justify the price but after some research — namely trying to find an equivalent Lenovo or Hp or whatever — I reached the conclusion that it’s mostly Intel’s fault. Let me explain: Intel chipsets don’t support enough lanes to supply USB-c, GPU, SSD and anything else with no less than 4 of them. The extra “legacy port breakout” ruins the tally and that’s why Apple dropp…

I personally love the keyboard. Also, I don’t mind it being a little thicker but I love the current weight.
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