Does this mean Skype will stop cooperating with governments demanding chat history disclosure?
They'll still cooperate but they'll have much less data to provide.
Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype
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Re: Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype
#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
Have you tried the skype mobile app latest update ? It makes the desktop version look amazing. Somehow, they thought we wanted skype to be a clone of whatsapp stories or whatever. Nothing works properly, it's slow as hell, but goody you can like and put a smiley on each individual message ! I used to really like skype but it has now become one of the worst, and I'm still forced to use it due to several of my contacts…
There's not a "Skype Lite" for Android... which returns back to previous form. Why that was necessary only Microsoft knows.
I'm running Skype Lite on android.
Re: Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype
#153Wikipedia: "Signal relies on centralized servers that are maintained by Open Whisper Systems." Would it be possible to use the same open source proto and crypto that Signal chose, but in a way that does not rely on third parties to run servers, such as OWS, WhatsApp, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, etc.?
Yes, but decentralization is a difficult problem. I think eventually it will become like email, where everyone just uses GMail. NAT, Firewall, etc all make it very difficult to do true P2P as well.
>I think eventually it will become like email, where everyone just uses GMail.
Or Outlook(Office365), Ymail, Zoho, GMX, iCloud, Yandex, Proton.
Re: Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype
#154How does Signal's chat security compare to Keybase.io's chat? Keybase has more features, but if it's not as secure, then it doesn't matter.
Keybase doesn’t support forward secrecy. The signal protocol does, though I can’t say whether that’s true for Skype's implementation of the protocol
Re: Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype
#155I made a request for e2e to Discord a while back. It became one of the most voted suggestions but got denied. Maybe this will push them to take another look.
I'm not knowledgeable about this -- is signal's e2e encryption even viable for a service with N users, and one where new users are being added? Put another way, if I have a group with 10 users and it's encrypted and then another person joins and can see the old messages, was it actually securely encrypted in the first place?
I don't think Discord gives people access to past message history when joining a group. I don't know of any limitations of Signal's group chats that would be a problem for Discord's group chat behavior.
Re: Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype
#156skype had this already before ms. ms opened skype up to government ages ago so this doesn't mean much of anything, there are backdoors. https://youtu.be/J1q4Ir2J8P8?t=2880
Yeah, I was gonna say Skype communication protocol was proprietary and encrypted until Microsoft bought them and rewrite a lot of it.
Re: Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype
#157Skype complies with at least court-ordered wiretap requests (they were forced to when MS bought them). How exactly will that work without "e2e but with key escrow"? And "e2e with key escrow" is basically the same as "plaintext"
Re: Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype
#158Wikipedia: "Signal relies on centralized servers that are maintained by Open Whisper Systems." Would it be possible to use the same open source proto and crypto that Signal chose, but in a way that does not rely on third parties to run servers, such as OWS, WhatsApp, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, etc.?
Yes, but decentralization is a difficult problem. I think eventually it will become like email, where everyone just uses GMail. NAT, Firewall, etc all make it very difficult to do true P2P as well.
You might use GMail, but I can communicate with you perfectly fine even if I don't use GMail.
Re: Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype
#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, but decentralization is a difficult problem. I think eventually it will become like email, where everyone just uses GMail. NAT, Firewall, etc all make it very difficult to do true P2P as well.
>I think eventually it will become like email, where everyone just uses GMail. Or Outlook(Office365), Ymail, Zoho, GMX, iCloud, Yandex, Proton.
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Re: Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype
#160The thing is. How will Microsoft and Skype handle backdoors now. As far as I understood the reason Microsoft broke Skype so badly was because they used centralised servers with backdoors for countries who wanted them. Not always the good countries.
But this. This baffles me. Deeply.