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Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype

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Re: Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype

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Wire's cryptography is cribbed from Signal, so Skype's original crypto couldn't have been all that bleeding edge.

You have to remember Skype is 14 years old. Skype's encryption was pretty cutting-edge in 2003.

It was so cutting edge that they participated in PRISM!

Re: Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype

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Two flicks ?!? Try 4-5 (or more) flicks and you also have to wait for the scrolling to happen (at the speed of your flick) .... contrast that with one "press" on iOS - it's not even close - I use the feature daily.

Maybe scroll speeds need some work on iOS. On Android, two full swipes of a long source file or pdf have gotten me to the top. Haha

Great, on iOS is a single interaction and again it has been there for ages. My dad switched from Android and actually likes this specific feature.

Re: Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype

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I just tried it on this webpage, and you’re correct! I really dislike behavior like this that is useful to a few people but is far more likely to be encountered accidentally and feel buggy.

If you think this is weird, what about the "shake to undo" thing? :-) Seriously, try to e.g. delete an email from the system's mail app, then vigorously shake your phone in anger. A popup asking you to "Undo delete" should appear on the screen (Many applications hook into this seemingly standard undo mechanism on iOS). Some things in iOS are objectively weird and unintuitive but I miss them so much whenever I use an…

> the "shake to undo" thing? :-)

"You appear to be shaking your phone in frustration. Would you like to un-delete that?" :)

Re: Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype

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I'll second this. I recently moved to a project that uses Outlook/Skype/Exchange for everything, and Skype is the bane of my experience. Why do I need a window for contacts separate from the actual conversations? Why do I need email recaps of every conversion, often times with redundant messages? Why can't I have a group chat that's intended to be a permanent 'room', and not just a collection of people who are virtua…

That's definitely Skype for Business, and it is a trainwreck. It's also standing on foundations that are at least 15 years old, from the pre-Slack era of instant messaging - it works essentially the same as AIM, or SameTime, or Pidgin, or any of the IM clients of that era. Good news for you, SFB is most likely going away soon; Microsoft is seemingly hell bent on rolling all of the things into Teams.

SFB is in my opinion just Lync still. They just changed the name and the design. Nothing else that I can see changed.

Re: Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype

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You have to remember Skype is 14 years old. Skype's encryption was pretty cutting-edge in 2003.

It was so cutting edge that they participated in PRISM!

Wasn't that after M$ bought them? (I might be wrong, just asking)

Re: Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype

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Or the desktop client on OSX keeps asking for admin privileges to install some helper tool every other day, with no explanation for why that's necessary.

That helper tool maxes my cpu every time I’m on a call. It’s amazingly terrible.

I'm just assuming I'm getting hacked by North Korea every time I say yes to it.

Re: Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype

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It was so cutting edge that they participated in PRISM!

Wasn't that after M$ bought them? (I might be wrong, just asking)

Yes, you are correct. I guess people didn’t get my joke.

Re: Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype

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While on topic of Skype: My God the latest Skype design update is abysmal, whoever come up with that horrible mess should be fired and never touch any design or management role at all. And it’s not only design but the ux is horrible too, when you switch between conversation - it does not focus on the chat box field so you can start typing right away, instead you have to click it first. This is a basic stuff for a cha…

I agree. I still have no idea how to use the latest Skype version without constantly ending up in menus and with options that I weren't looking for.

However, I also completely lack the curiosity to figure it out. I just try to minimize using Skype as much as possible.

It's a vicious circle of wanting to flee and thereby not getting accustomed to it.

Re: Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype

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Two flicks ?!? Try 4-5 (or more) flicks and you also have to wait for the scrolling to happen (at the speed of your flick) .... contrast that with one "press" on iOS - it's not even close - I use the feature daily.

Maybe scroll speeds need some work on iOS. On Android, two full swipes of a long source file or pdf have gotten me to the top. Haha

iOS devices aren't only used to browse source files or PDFs. You could be at the very bottom of an extremely long Reddit thread, for example, or some other really long page where it would take multiple swipes to get back to the top.
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